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Cannonball with Wesley Morris

We Assess the Outrage over "Bodega" and Mother!

Cannonball with Wesley Morris

The New York Times

News Commentary, Society & Culture, News, Arts

4.89.2K Ratings

🗓️ 21 September 2017

⏱️ 42 minutes

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Summary

Last week, a Silicon Valley startup called Bodega instigated an internet meltdown after a Fast Company profile made the company’s intentions clear. “Eventually, centralized shopping locations won’t be necessary, because there will be 100,000 Bodegas spread out, with one always 100 feet away from you,” said Paul McDonald, a co-founder, who used to work at Google. The outrage made moral sense. “Bodega” is name that’s asking for trouble, especially with people who frequent them. The outrage is also easy. Where’s the upset over the effect other, bigger companies – like Amazon, whose latest major acquisition, Whole Foods, has slashed prices – might actually have on bodegas? Being mad at Amazon is harder when it’s mixed up in so much of your life. We discuss the dilemma. We also get into the horror at the movies (“It,” “Mother!”) and on TV (“American Horror Story: Cult”), and how it meets up with our times in surprising and hilarious ways — especially Darren Aronofsky’s “Mother!” with Jennifer Lawerence and Javier Bardem. It’s a mess and a half. But it’s a really fun mess.

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0:00.0

I'm Jenna Wortham.

0:01.4

I'm Wesley Morris.

0:02.6

We're two culture writers at the New York Times.

0:05.0

I'm mostly right about how humans relate to technology.

0:08.0

And I mostly write about how popular culture relates to humans.

0:11.4

This is still a processing.

0:23.7

And we're back.

0:24.5

Hi.

0:25.2

Hi.

0:25.7

What's going on?

0:26.6

Nothing.

0:27.5

You're rocking whatever's going on over here.

0:30.3

Sports bra?

0:31.2

Ivy Park Sports Bra.

0:33.0

Look, it only took to September for a summer to finally get here.

0:35.3

So I'm working with it.

0:36.8

I got told today by you that I look like a substitute teacher who is trying to be cool

0:44.0

at a different school.

0:44.7

You're literally Jibberi Moore, I never make kids.

0:46.5

Good job.

0:48.1

So what's topping your personal top charts this week?

0:53.3

So the Emmys happened on Sunday?

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