In times like these, we all need a word of encouragement. From pastor and best-selling author Max

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145 million books sold in 50 languages. Max shares the greatest story ever told, the living

savior who brings hope for a lifetime through rich, biblical insight, heartfelt storytelling.

You'll be reminded that God

is always near, always for you, and always in you. Listen to the Max Lucato encouraging word podcast,

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Welcome back, America, Hugh Hewitt, in the Relief Factory Studio Beltway, joined by NoAA C. Rothman, who you can follow on exit, Noa C. Rothman, senior writer for National Review, participant often in the editors podcast.

Noah asked you to stick around extra today because I listen to the editors this week. And I love Rich, love Michael, Brendan Doherty, love Charles C.W. Cook.

They've all been guests here frequently. But I don't think they, I don't think they dealt

fairly with you in the last editors. Did you get enough time to state the case, in your opinion?

Well, I think I got plenty of time.

My colleagues are more skeptical of the campaign than I am,

and for reasons that are perfectly well-reasoned and legitimate and prudent.

I wouldn't question any of their motives.

I think they're sound and their skepticism is justified.

I don't question your motives.

They're wrong.

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