We Are Treating Each Other as ‘Political Abstractions,’ Chloe Valdary Has a Way to Fix That

American Thought Leaders

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🗓️ 16 July 2024

⏱️ 48 minutes

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Summary

Chloé Valdary is the founder of an alternative model to the diversity, equity, and inclusion (DEI) training programs found in many corporations. Her alternative, called the “Theory of Enchantment,” first emerged from her work educating people about anti-Semitism and the Israeli–Palestinian conflict.

“They would say to you, ‘You are a white man, and therefore you are privileged. And therefore you belong to the ’oppressor class.‘ I, as a person of color, belongs to the ’oppressed class.' And we are—you and I—locked in a Manichean struggle from now until the end of time. There’s no escape valve,” said Ms. Valdary.

“There are three principles to the theory of enchantment. [The] first principle is treat people like human beings, not political abstractions. Second principle is criticize to uplift and empower, never to tear down or destroy. And third principle is root everything you do in love and compassion.”

We discuss concepts such as supremacy, identity, outrage, race, and religion.

“We are a Protestant nation. Protest is our founding religion. And so, we are confronted with a great challenge, which is the challenge of growing up. We are a very young nation, and I think that all of these ‘culture wars’ are an invitation to engage in some self-reflection, collectively, and grow up,” said Ms. Valdary.

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0:00.0	They would say to you, you are a white man and therefore you are privileged.
0:05.5	You belong to the quote unquote oppressor class and we are you and I locked in a
0:10.9	Manichean struggle from now until the end of time. There's no escape valve.
0:15.6	Chloe Valdery is the founder of an alternative model to the diversity, equity and inclusion
0:20.4	D.I training programs found in many corporations.
0:24.0	Her alternative, called Theory of Enchantment, first emerged from her work educating people
0:29.2	about anti-Semitism and the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.
0:33.0	There are three principles through the theory of enchantment.
0:35.0	First principle is treat people like human beings, not political abstractions.
0:39.0	Second principle is criticized to uplift and empower, never to tear down or destroy. is
0:45.0	to up lift and empower, never to tear down or destroy.
0:45.0	And third principle is root everything you do in love and compassion.
0:48.0	This is American Thought Leaders, and I'm Yanya Kelleck.
0:57.0	Chloe Baldry, such a pleasure to have you on American thought leaders. Thank you so much for having me.
0:59.0	Chloe, you said something provocative a little while ago that really caught my attention. I want to start with that.
1:05.1	Okay, you said all humans have had supremacist thoughts through all time, including today.
1:11.6	Yes. I think there's a lot of people who might be unhappy to hear that.
1:16.0	Well just tell me what you mean here. Well I've experienced a full range of what it means to be human. I experience joy, I experience
1:26.9	rage, I experience anger, I experience love, which is actually more about a state of awareness than an emotion, but I experience
1:36.0	all these things as human beings.
1:37.8	There's a great film that's out right now that's exploring this called Inside Out Part 2.
1:42.4	This is true of all of us.
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