We Are Not as Bloodthirsty as Stephen Miller Wants Us to Be
To The Contrary with Charlie Sykes
Charlie Sykes
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🗓️ 13 December 2025
⏱️ 47 minutes
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Summary
But we are also not as good as we thought we were before the Trump era, according to David French, a New York Times opinion columnist. He argues that Stephen Miller is miscalculating, and that it's possible to awaken the country's sleeping conscience.
In this episode, he and Charlie also discuss the Indiana Senate's rejection of Trump's redistricting bill, the upcoming Supreme Court decision on tariffs, and the "vibe shift."
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| 0:00.0 | I'm Charlie Sacks. Welcome to the To the Contrary Podcast. And what an extraordinary week, Donald Trump, the winner of the inaugural FIFA Peace Prize. And then he handed out this golden visa. Have you seen the golden visa? The fact that you pay a million dollars and you get the Trump gold card. Meanwhile, we have more questions about war crimes and whether or not we're going to go to war with Venezuela. The Supreme Court appears poised to dramatically expand presidential powers. Donald Trump went to Pennsylvania trying to pivot on the affordability issue, but ended up lecturing the unwashed about dolls and pencils. He gets the golden ballroom. You only get a |
| 0:41.0 | couple of dolls and like, what do you need pencils for? But, you know, this was not a great week for |
| 0:45.6 | Donald Trump. You know, as I wrote in my newsletter, there's not enough spray tan in the world |
| 0:49.4 | cover up how lousy his Thursday was. House of Representatives rejects one of his executive orders. Very rarely |
| 0:55.7 | happens. Another grand jury refuses to indict Letitia James. A judge frees Abrago Garcia and really |
| 1:05.4 | calls bullshit on the Trump administration. Christy Noam had a terrible, terrible day testifying before Congress. |
| 1:13.8 | The Republican concept of a plan to have a plan on health care crashed in the Senate. |
| 1:19.8 | His poll numbers continued a crater. And quite frankly, that was just merely prologue to |
| 1:25.5 | the ultimate humiliation that Donald Trump experienced in the state of Indiana of all places where something extraordinarily rare happened. |
| 1:34.1 | Republicans stood up to him. So today's going to be pretty interesting. |
| 1:53.7 | Yeah. So joining us to break down another extraordinary week as our good friend, David French. |
| 1:54.9 | David, thanks for coming on. |
| 1:55.8 | I appreciate it very much. |
| 1:56.4 | Good to see you. |
| 1:57.6 | Great to be here, Charlie. |
| 1:58.4 | Great to see you. |
| 2:01.1 | You know, I didn't even mention in the rundown. |
| 2:06.8 | Didn't even mention some of the other things. You know, the new national security document that puts America first, you know, in writing the sale of the AI chips to China. I mean, |
| 2:14.9 | it's, it is hard, it is hard to keep up. So I don't know, do you have a |
| 2:18.5 | preference where you want to start today? You know, I'm most interested, at least in the |
| 2:24.1 | immediate breaking news of the Indiana Senate, that I think this is a more important moment than |
| 2:30.8 | people realize. So what you have is this one of these, you know, |
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