We All Suffer from OpenAI’s Pursuit of Scale w/ Karen Hao [Replay]
Tech Won't Save Us
Paris Marx
4.8 • 701 Ratings
🗓️ 8 January 2026
⏱️ 54 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | We absolutely need to think of this company as a new form of empire and to look at these colonial dynamics in order to understand ultimately how to Us made in partnership with The Nation magazine. |
| 0:31.0 | I'm your host, Paris Marks, and as we get started on this new year, 26, we are revisiting |
| 0:36.9 | some of the important topics and issues that defined |
| 0:39.6 | last year in tech. So last week, we revisited an interview with Liz Peli looking at streaming |
| 0:45.4 | services as part of this broader kind of consideration of the way that we consume culture now, |
| 0:50.5 | the way that digital mediation and streaming has changed that, and where, you know, |
| 0:54.8 | we might go from here, right? The unavoidable story of last year was, of course, AI, this continued |
| 1:00.8 | push to adopt generative AI, the continued growth of Open AI in particular, and how that has |
| 1:06.9 | propelled the rest of the industry to basically glom onto this idea that Sam |
| 1:12.5 | Altman initially pushed with ChatGBT, BT, that so many other companies are now trying |
| 1:17.8 | to chase it on or trying to beat it on. |
| 1:20.2 | That has also resulted in the construction of so many data centers that have so many |
| 1:24.8 | physical implications on the world around us. |
| 1:28.4 | And so as we consider that issue and the role that it played last year, |
| 1:32.8 | but the broader impacts of generative AI in particular, |
| 1:36.3 | I think the interview that I did with Karen Howe is a great one to go back to as we start off this year. |
| 1:41.8 | And before we get into new you know, new original interviews for |
| 1:45.2 | 2026 that will start next week. And of course, Karen is an award-winning journalist who has written |
| 1:50.2 | for many publications and also the author of Empire of AI, probably one of the best books that came |
| 1:56.3 | out last year, especially given the subject matter that it covered and how important that was for |
| 2:02.0 | the continued conversation around AI, around Sam Altman, and around Open AI in particular. |
| 2:07.7 | At this stage, it's really hard to say, you know, what role generative AI is still going to |
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