We All Feel Like the World's Ending Because It Is (Kind Of) with Lizzie Wade

Factually! with Adam Conover

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Comedy

4.4 • 2.2K Ratings

🗓️ 26 November 2025

⏱️ 85 minutes

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Summary

Do you have the not-so-creeping feeling that the world is ending? You might be right. The world’s ended before, and the world will end again—just not in the way we see in TV and movies. Lizzie Wade’s new book, Apocalypse: How Catastrophe Transformed Our World and Can Forge New Futures, explores how events like the colonial extermination of indigenous peoples or the Black Death were the end of the world for the affected people, as well as what came next. This week, Adam sits with Lizzie to talk about why it feels like the world is ending, and what that actually means for us it’s true. Find Lizzie’s book at factuallypod.com/books

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0:00.0	This is a headgum podcast.
0:05.6	Extra value meals are back.
0:07.8	That means 10 tender juicy McNuggets and medium fries and a drink are just $8.
0:13.9	Only at McDonald's.
0:15.8	For limited time only, prices and participation may vary.
0:17.9	Prices may be higher in Hawaii, Alaska, and California, and for delivery.
0:20.4	I don't know the truth. I don't know the truth.
0:23.4	I don't know the way.
0:26.0	I don't know what to think.
0:28.8	I don't know what to say.
0:31.7	Yeah, but that's all right.
0:34.5	That's okay.
0:37.1	I don't know anything.
0:42.7	Hey there, welcome to Factually.
0:44.3	I'm Adam Conover.
0:45.2	Thank you for joining me on the show again.
0:46.6	I don't have you noticed, but we're living in an age where everybody feels like the world
0:51.4	is ending and not for bad reason.
0:54.6	You know, we got climate change that we are doing less about than ever.
0:57.8	There's the advent of AI.
1:00.1	There's dawning fascism around the world.
1:02.6	Or if you yourself as a fascist, maybe the end of the world is day laborers standing around
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