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When Diplomacy Fails Podcast

WDF Presents: A Masters Dissertation- "Honour at Stake" VI

When Diplomacy Fails Podcast

Zack Twamley

Phd, International Relations, Korean War, European History, 17th Century, 18th Century, Politics, 20th Century, Thirty Years' War, History, 19th Century, War, First World War

4.8773 Ratings

🗓️ 28 September 2015

⏱️ 21 minutes

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Summary

Herein we conclude our analysis of the era by summarising our major findings and determining the level of importance that code of honour could justifiably be said to have had in 1914. I hope you enjoyed the miniseries! Please remember to BEFIT and stay tuned for more WDF goodness in the very near future! ThankssssssRemember history friends, you can help this podcast and ensure that this is where history thrives! Support us by going to www.patreon.com/WhenDiplomacyFailsFollow me on Twitter @wdfpodcastAnd visit our official website www.wdfpodcast.com Get bonus content on Patreon

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0:00.0

When Diplomacy Fails presents a master's dissertation by Zach Twomley The conclusion

0:31.9

The ultimate vindication of honour is physical violence

0:37.1

Julian Pitt Rivers, historian and political The ultimate vindication of honour is physical violence.

0:43.6

Julian Pitt Rivers, historian and political scientist, 1965.

0:50.3

Does honour answer the question of why Britain went to war?

0:55.3

One could assert that it contributes to the other studies that have sought to answer this question.

1:02.4

Honor was as valuable a commodity, as security and imperial interests. Indeed, to someone was inseparable from these two entities. To lose honor meant to lose standing in the eyes of one's

1:07.3

rivals, meant the mass disobedience of one's subjects, and the gauntlet of challenges,

1:12.6

suddenly provided by rivals and friends alike that could sense inherent weakness.

1:18.0

Such losses incurred, shame, and the drop in prestige that would inevitably follow.

1:24.0

Britain's diplomatic credibility could also be damaged, possibly threatening her ability to make alliances in Europe.

1:32.0

Fear of such consequences had been enough, as we have seen, to mobilize some statesmen and newspapers to advocate for a certain course from an early stage.

1:43.9

For others, the question was a more personal one, but no less significant because of that.

1:49.4

Interventionists had been loathed to claim the damage to the empire's name

1:52.6

that would be done if France, expectant of aid, was crushed and eliminated from the sovereign

1:57.9

map of Europe. The question of obligation or non-obligation to France

2:02.5

was something that those on both sides of the ideological fence grappled with.

2:08.1

In many ways this was the confusion of the British cabinet's own making.

2:12.2

The people in statesmen were told that no written obligations existed,

2:16.4

and yet the situation in place because of previous

2:18.9

agreements suggested or to some it automatically resulted, in obligations of an honorary, moral

2:25.2

nature. To those opposed to war, Russia's moral conduct and ideological backwardness loomed,

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