WDF 25.96: SPECIAL= The 30 Years War Part Seventeen: Making Westphalia III
When Diplomacy Fails Podcast
Zack Twamley
4.8 • 773 Ratings
🗓️ 16 June 2014
⏱️ 78 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | It is no small skill to quit the game when one is winning, because one secures one's gain, |
| 0:11.0 | and one can count that, which remains among one's possessions. |
| 0:16.0 | Cardinal Maturin Maceran. On January 6, 1646, France issued its third peace proposal, which sought greater gains for the country and a more ambitious post-war settlement. |
| 1:02.0 | It revolved around its recent acquisitions along the Rhine, including Bryce Sack, Philpsburg and some minor Rhine fortresses, as well as Lorraine, Alsace and |
| 1:11.7 | French Comte in their total form. |
| 1:15.2 | Cardinal Jules Matzarin, the French minister and the individual charged with guiding French |
| 1:19.6 | foreign policy, was confident that by demanding more than they previously had, France could |
| 1:25.0 | use the additional demands as later bargaining chips that could be negotiated |
| 1:28.7 | away in the form of carrots for the enemy. France's position, Matzarin believed, was strong |
| 1:35.0 | enough to demand such satisfaction because neither the Habsburgs nor Bavaria were able to withstand |
| 1:40.4 | France along the Rhine, and Sweden had so penetrated the inner sanctum of the |
| 1:44.7 | Habsburg heartlands that further fighting would threaten the very existence of the |
| 1:49.2 | Habsburg family itself. Life in the two vital Westphalian cities of Osnabrook and Moonster, |
| 1:58.2 | adopted as a diplomatic and representative base by Sweden and France |
| 2:01.4 | respectively, was alight with a flurry of activity. The need within the negotiations taking place |
| 2:07.5 | within them was to ensure that every decision, every treaty signed and every agreement reached, |
| 2:12.4 | was approved by governments not only represented by France and Sweden, but also by representatives |
| 2:17.2 | of the representatives of the |
| 2:17.6 | princes of the Holy Roman Empire that had elected to leave Frankfurt and seek to represent |
| 2:22.1 | themselves. Frankfurt had sought to uphold the Emperor Ferdinand III as the sole voice of the |
| 2:28.6 | empire. It had tried to establish that voice through interstate negotiations in the city, with the goal of then |
| 2:34.8 | assembling this voice into a strategy that could be represented at the two cities. It failed with |
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