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When Diplomacy Fails Podcast

WDF 25.92: SPECIAL= The 30 Years War Part Fifteen: Making Westphalia I

When Diplomacy Fails Podcast

Zack Twamley

Phd, International Relations, Korean War, European History, 17th Century, 18th Century, Politics, 20th Century, Thirty Years' War, History, 19th Century, War, First World War

4.8773 Ratings

🗓️ 6 June 2014

⏱️ 48 minutes

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Summary

So much happens in the years 1645-48 that I elected to split it into 4 more manageable episodes rather than 2 large ones. We jump into the first part here; we establish the major ideas that were going around at the time, and we introduce you to what everyone wanted and what tried to make everyone think they wanted. Thanks!Remember history friends, you can help this podcast and ensure that this is where history thrives! Support us by going to www.patreon.com/WhenDiplomacyFailsFollow me on Twitter @wdfpodcastAnd visit our official website www.wdfpodcast.com Get bonus content on Patreon

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0:00.0

One must believe neither the people of the palace, who ordinarily measure the power of the king by the shape of his crown, which, being round, has no end, nor those who, in the excess of a discreet zeal, proclaim themselves openly as partisans of Rome.

0:23.6

Cardinal Richelieu. God Oh

0:38.3

Oh

0:41.3

Oh

0:42.3

Oh Oh, Oh, Cardinal Matzarin, the First Minister of France, approached the beginning months of 1644

1:24.4

with caution, concern, and a consideration for events occurring in Scandinavia

1:29.4

that had dragged their major ally Sweden into making war on Denmark.

1:35.8

Matsirin knew that France's position was not militarily strong at the beginning of that year.

1:41.0

France had troops stationed to numerous strategic points in Catalonia, the South Netherlands border, along the Rhine, watching the Pyrenees in North Italy, but the fact that the soldiers existed there did not necessarily mean that the state supplying them was enjoying prosperity.

1:56.0

Matsirin knew his country was stretched, that the war had taken its toll on the French

2:01.0

finances and that war in this form could not be endured by France much longer.

2:06.7

He was reliant on Sweden to pick up the slack of Northern Europe and ensured that France

2:10.6

did not have to face both the Austrian Habsburgs and the Spanish Habsburgs alone.

2:16.5

When the Swedish Council and Sweden's chancellor, Axel

2:19.1

Oxens Tierra, made the decision to declare a preemptive war against Sweden's eternal

2:23.6

Baltic rival Denmark, though, the race was on in the Habsburg camp to first support their new

2:28.8

ally by default, and then to use the combined forces of the two Hasberg branches to crush the French across Europe.

2:37.2

That was the story of 1644, and we'll cover it in some more detail here, because it is important for setting in concrete the events that followed.

2:47.4

1645 will then see Sweden by France's side, and the negotiations at Munster and Osnabrook entering

2:53.6

their own critical phases. All the while, you're likely to notice the pattern emerge

2:58.5

that demands will be changed with the change in military fortunes, and that a state, who believes

3:04.2

he's on the up, will try to talk the talk at the same time.

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