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When Diplomacy Fails Podcast

WDF 25.55: SPECIAL= The 30 Years War Part Eight: The End of the 1620's II

When Diplomacy Fails Podcast

Zack Twamley

Phd, International Relations, Korean War, European History, 17th Century, 18th Century, Politics, 20th Century, Thirty Years' War, History, 19th Century, War, First World War

4.8773 Ratings

🗓️ 29 January 2014

⏱️ 59 minutes

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Summary

Part Two of 25.5 looks at Ferdinand's 'fruits of victory' within the HRE: the Edict of Restitution and the problems it was soon to pose. We then examine the changing diplomatic and strategic situation for the Habsburgs, and outline how the Dutch managed to reverse their fortunes. Thankssss.Remember history friends, you can help this podcast and ensure that this is where history thrives! Support us by going to www.patreon.com/WhenDiplomacyFailsFollow me on Twitter @wdfpodcastAnd visit our official website www.wdfpodcast.com Get bonus content on Patreon

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0:00.0

Although God, the most high prince of war, often lets dark clouds cover his own, he still tends to them

0:12.8

finally, gladdening them once again with the loving rays of his son, and releasing the weather of wrath

0:18.9

over the enemies of his church and common liberty.

0:22.9

Frederick V of the Palatine in a letter to Christian of Denmark, autumn 1626. The Lord, He said

0:40.3

The 1624 greeted

0:57.0

With a bitter enemy, Frederick V of the Platinate, had been utterly defeated, and was now asking for peace.

1:18.6

It had been a shaky start for the Emperor, and his success had been wrestled from the jaws of defeat by his trusty allies and Habsburg Cousins the Spanish.

1:26.6

While he had paid off

1:28.4

his most other important ally, Maximilian Duke of Bavaria.

1:32.6

His allies had enabled him to first put down the Bohemian Rebellion, and then his allies struck

1:37.0

again as they overran the Palatine lands Frederick called home by the end of 1623. In short, his victory was total. The only source of opposition

1:47.4

could be found in the exile Frederick and is apparently hopeless schemes to orchestrate an

1:52.2

international alliance against him, while the Dutch continued to suffer successive defeats against

1:57.3

his Spanish ally on the continent. It is all too easy to present this narrative as the moment of Habsburg triumph,

2:03.6

and to simplify this period of the Thirty Years' War accordingly.

2:07.6

Geoffrey Parker warns against this approach, though, in his book The Thirty Years' War, he writes,

2:13.6

quote,

2:14.6

Although it has become the convention in histories of the 30 years war to examine the events of

2:18.5

the 1620s mainly through the eyes of the defeated Protestants, such a view is both distorted and

2:23.4

deceptive. It fails to take into account the patient labours of the victors to turn their temporary

2:28.7

triumph into a permanent achievement, first in the conquered lands of the rebels, and later in the

2:33.9

empire at large.

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