Sometimes you try really hard to find your joy, but your friend reminds you that it's

in the trying where you find the joy. This is the Wayward Podcast.

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Yes, we go.

Here we go.

So this topic was, you know, for a change when Kim was like, you're going to have to drive it, which is never true with either of us. Usually it's like Kim's like, I want to talk about books and I'm like,

I'm just kidding. I never said I want to talk about books.

Hi Brianna Buckmaster.

Hello!

Um, so we thought this episode we would talk about trying.

And so I. about trying. So I, I almost said I am a try hard, which is not a nice term if you went to

high school, but I do try, oh so many things, I try everything. Even me

being in Los Angeles right now is me trying something. I love to try things, anything. And I don't know

where that stemmed from, but I just that that feeling when I fail is so easily forgotten in my body

that I think that that's why maybe that I just keep trying things because most of the stuff I try

it is failing. So I'm thinking about the first, God, the first business I tried starting on my own was a makeup business. I was

doing makeup for a while. I want to say professionally, but really it was just if you got paid you were a

professional I guess sure I had a little company called City Cinderella I had a website, I had business cards, I did all these things, and I did all this stuff on my own,

you know, printed out business cards on my computer and this was when I moved to Toronto so I was 20, you know early to mid 20s.

And it maybe could have gone somewhere, but I was trying, this is the fun thing of it, when you try to be an artist to support your other artistry, you're like, oh, you fucking fool.

Hold on.

Yeah. So what happened is inevitably I started getting...

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