Sometimes you have drastically opposing viewpoints on pets. But you realize that love is love, whether or not it's fuzzy.

This is the Wayward Podcast.

Some things.

No, I know.

And it's a great one to include photos.

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So this topic Kim suggested and I was like, I don't, I don't know if I have much to say about that,

but that's rarely the case even if it's actually true.

And it's been requested a few times.

Yeah, not just by my kid.

I was going to say specifically recently by your daughter and you know what she really is the

fourth partner in this podcast she's yeah she's when she's not here physically she's

here spiritually I love it so we're going to talk about pets, pets and

animals and so Kim has a very different experience with her relationships with her pets and animals that I do.

Although I feel a little bit like you are wearing off on me.

Isn't that funny? I notice animals more and that also might be just kind of the work I've been doing over the last few months of just trying to be more aware of earth and earthly beings and animals included.

But tell me about how you first developed your obsessive love over animals.

What the actual fuck I think is.

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