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We have the table this week, we've got Gita Jackson. Hello, I'm Kita.

And our producer, Ricardo Contraris. Hey, how's it going?

Well, that's a loaded question. Yeah, it's fucking is, isn't it? How is it going?

Not how things are going. Not good. I would say things have been better.

We are living in the cool zone of history. You know, like the cool zone of history, have you heard

that we read that one viral tweet, Rob? No, is it a chapeau thing? No, it's not a chapeau thing.

I was not going to say actual leftist, but it's leftist that does not involve chapeau at all.

They wrote something like when unemployment reaches above 30% and there's widespread

distrust of the governmental bodies in this country, America will enter what historians call

the cool zone. And you know, the euphemism of the cool zone, I think, is something that everyone

understands innately what the cool zone is when it's explained to you that way. But grappling

with the fact that we're living in the cool zone has been really interesting for me personally.

Yeah, though, I guess right away, like, is this one of the things that I'm struggling with is,

is this different? Right? Like is this materially different despite the fact that we have

massive economic trauma via COVID-19? This also feels very much of a piece with Ferguson protests

in 2014. It feels very much of a piece with a lot of various other protests we've seen in relation

to killings of black people by police or by white vigilantes, basically. And so I think this is

one of the things that makes it tough to parse this is like, is this different because historical

context now is so much more loaded, is so different than it's been in the past? Or is this more of

this recurring trauma that we all live through again and again because nothing ever changes?

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