Hey everybody, you're a friendly neighborhood podcast editor producer, Kato here with

a quick content warning on one of the clips we included from the movie thief at approximately

two hours and 17 minutes and 27 seconds. There is a clip from the end of the film that

includes a threat of rape and racial slurs. It's a pretty short clip, only about two minutes.

So when you hear Rob call out about it, he mentions that it's pretty gruesome. So you can skip

it ahead two minutes apart from that. I hope you all enjoy. Peace.

Welcome to Waypoint's Michael Mann project. I guess we'll call that. We're working on a title

for the rest of the Waypoint Plus movie podcasts, but this is already going to be kind of an odd

series that we're going to be running off and on for the foreseeable future. We are going to be

looking at the films of Michael Mann and today we are starting with 1981's thief. Here to help

me do that, we've got two very good friends of Waypoint first, Dielotzina. Okay. And we also welcome

from Nextlander, Alex Navarro. Thank you for having me and also who called this the Michael Mann

project and not going down the manhole. That's a good name. There's so many things you do with

manhole too. Anyway, yes, there is. So Michael Mann is a director that Alex, I think you and I

are both just mildly obsessed with. Yeah. I would call it milder session. And I think he's

like there's a couple of things I believe about Michael Mann. One is that he is extremely easy to

underrate because he makes such iconic dude type movies. It's very easy to see him as sort of the

king of the men's dorm room movie night. He makes movies about guys ripping shit off. There's

an easy way that stereotype thief being a movie about two bros on the opposite sides of the law,

both trying to take down, take each other down. That is one way to read him. But I think one,

the body of work is actually much more diverse than that. Like there's a lot more two man's body of

work beyond movies like heat. And second, I think even in those films that are in some ways stereotypical

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