Wayne Kramer is on the show today is a very special episode for me because I you know sometimes with musicians. I'm like holy shit. I can't believe I'm talking to fucking Wayne Kramer. Are you fucking kidding me? Oh my God. I don't know how much you guys know about the MC5, but the MC5 were the shit man.

They were three albums of the shit.

Pure fucking rock and roll at a at a moment in history that will never come again.

Three records of beautiful chaos.

I mean without the MC5 you get no punk rock you get no

Iggy pop you get no you know balls to the walls rip it open kind of rock and roll

comes right out of Detroit man late 60s baby never going to be the same again the world is

never going to be the same that was a turning point and these guys were at the

center of the hurricane the eye of the storm.

I didn't even know what to do with Wayne Kramer.

I had this opportunity to interview him and I started listening to the MC5 records.

You can listen to all of it, man.

There's only a few records, maybe one bootleg.

There's only a few records.

And then it was over.

It was fucking over.

And lives went awry. Lives went rogue man. Wayne Kramer has at least three glives and I'm thinking he might have a cat's disposition. So I'm listening to the MC5 and you know when Wayne Kramer comes up.

You know he drives up and you know Wayne Kramer's in his 60s now and I'm listening to kick out the jams

loud like it's supposed to be listened to and I walk out I see him pull out I walk out into the driveway and you can hear the music pouring out into the street if I can first tune. And I'm walking

up to driveway Wayne and I'm like do you hear that man? Do you hear that? He's like,

yeah. And like you know what that is? He's like, I don't know what? What? I don't know if I do. I'm like listen to it. Do you know what that is? He's like, I don't know what? I don't know if I do.

I'm like listen to it. Do you know what that is? Uh, no not not right off and and we walk in I'm like it's

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