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The Waves: Gender, Relationships, Feminism

Waving Goodbye for Now

The Waves: Gender, Relationships, Feminism

Slate Podcasts

News Commentary, Society & Culture, News, Sexuality, Health & Fitness

4.2903 Ratings

🗓️ 23 April 2020

⏱️ 63 minutes

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Summary

For The Wave’s final episode before a temporary but indefinite hiatus, Christina, June, Marcia, and Nichole have a coronavirus check-in and talk about inequalities amplified by the pandemic. They also review Feel Good, a semi-autobiographical series on Netflix from comedian Mae Martin. Finally, the panel discusses who they want Joe Biden to select as his running mate, who they think he should pick, and who they think he will choose.   


In Slate Plus: Is it sexist that liquor stores are considered essential businesses, if excessive alcohol consumption is linked to domestic abuse and reports of domestic violence have increased since many people are staying at home?

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Other Items Discussed: 

Stop Trying to Be Productive by Taylor Lorenz

Sitting on the Couch Is My New Favorite Hobby by Josh Gondelman

The Trapped-at-Home Mother by Emily Gould 

The “All-Consuming” Emotional Labor Caused by Coronavirus—and Shouldered by Women by Andrea Flynn 

How Coronavirus Is Affecting Surrogacy, Foster Care and Adoption by David Dodge


Recommendations:


Nichole: Bestiary: Poems by Donika Kelly 

 

Marcia: A Field Guide to American Houses (Revised): The Definitive Guide to Identifying and Understanding America's Domestic Architecture by Virginia Savage McAlester.  


June: Tommy, the CBS police procedural. 

 

Christina: Cats, yes - that Cats. The 2019 movie adaptation of the famous Andrew Lloyd Webber musical. 


Send your comments and recommendations on what to cover to thewaves@slate.com.


Podcast production by Rosemary Belson. Production assistance by Cleo Levin.


Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Transcript

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0:00.0

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0:03.0

The following podcast contains explicit language.

0:15.1

Hello and welcome to the waves for Thursday, April 23rd, the Waving Goodbye for Now edition. I'm Christina

0:22.6

Kottorucci, a staff writer at Slate and host of the Slate podcast Outward. I'm Marcia Chathland,

0:28.4

a professor of history at Georgetown University. I'm Nicole Perkins, writer and co-host of Thursday

0:33.5

Kit. And I'm June Thomas, senior managing producer of Slate Podcasts.

0:38.2

If we sound extra happy this week, it's because of everyone who sent in their coronavirus

0:45.2

at home haircuts. Several of you sent in some fantastic pictures. One even sent in a haircut that her family performed on a puppy.

0:58.3

I cannot get enough of your puppy. I'd love to see every haircut that you ever give your puppy.

1:05.2

You all look great. June, I know you've been talking about your hair. I'm waiting for you to

1:09.2

reach that point of no return where you've got to just shave it all hair. I'm waiting for you to reach that point of no return where

1:11.5

you've got to just shave it all off. I'm so close. I'm so close. I mean, I'm, as we all keep saying,

1:17.4

super grateful that this is my biggest problem. Or maybe it's the thing that I hold on to, like,

1:21.8

if I could just suss out my hair, everything would be fine. Narrator, it's not.

1:28.7

Exactly.

1:30.1

Before we jump into this week's topics, we have some sadder news.

1:35.8

This will be the last episode of the waves for the foreseeable future.

1:40.7

As many of you might know, the coronavirus pandemic and the recession have been devastating for news outlets that rely on money from ads. Advertisers are keeping their ads from running against content about the coronavirus. And more importantly, a lot of the businesses that would be buying ads from us right now don't have the money or the incentive to advertise.

2:05.4

So Slate is losing money and cutting costs. And we are one of the costs that got cut.

2:11.2

Those of us who work at Slate full time, including myself in June, have also taken a pay cut.

2:16.6

That said, I know there are a lot of people out there who have it much worse than we do right now.

2:22.5

But if any of you, like me, still have some disposable income right now and you've been reading Slate or listening to this podcast and you think it's enriched your life or maybe given you something to be mad about,

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