Now here on the T-Rex podcast, we've had book reviews and we've had interviews, but this is the

first time I'm interviewing an author about the book. I have someone here who has written a book

that I, you know, I'll just start with the book review. I recommend the book.

My guest today on T-Rex talk is John Harris.

John Harris has written the book Against the Waves.

That's the one that we're going to be talking about mostly today, but I want to talk about

some other stuff with you, John, as well.

So welcome to the podcast.

Yeah, thanks, Isaac.

It's a pleasure to be here, and I appreciate your patience with me and my computer

issues.

I know this is our second go at trying to do this and should work this time.

Second try is great.

We had the great beginning of a conversation, so now we'll actually, we should probably

go back and have the beginning of the conversation again, just for the third chair.

But tell me a little bit about yourself.

The book that you have written against the waves, one of my favorite things about it is it categorizes a bunch of the political ideologies that swirl around.

It feels like there's more of those today than I remember

there being in the past, at least when I was, you know, growing up in politics. But what's,

what's your relationship? How did you get into this fight? Because I've seen you, our paths,

I don't know that we've ever met in real life. Our paths have crossed on the internet and we

have mutual

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