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Stay tuned later in the episode for what we're planning this year in celebration of all things

horology. And keep an eye out for the return of UBS House of Craft.

Hello and welcome to day two of watches and wonders 2025. My name is James Sacey. I've got Ben,

Tantan, and Mark. We are digging into everything we saw today. We're trying to move quickly. We've got a ton of

stuff. It's a very busy show this year. We also have a special segment in just a few minutes with the CEO

of Watchers and Wonders Geneva Foundation, Matthew Umair.

And I think it's a pretty good chat. Andy and I sat down with him. We had some questions.

You won't believe how many hotel rooms they book for this. It's truly a staggering number.

So stay tuned for that. But guys, we, we had a, we've had a really busy day. We sure have.

We saw Tudor yesterday after recording so we can chat

tutor if we want. We finally got some hands on with Rolex. Pretty exciting.

Orris, Grand Seco, Tag Hoyer, Armez. It was a busy day. Yeah. You guys want to do a little,

get through the Rolex hurdle with a, there's so much stuff to see and talk about. I think we're

probably sure. Let's do rolex

for all the people that don't want rolex just skip ahead five minutes yeah just get if you see me

with uh with somebody else that's the next segment okay you could jump to that if you need to but look

i was surprised um by a lot of the stuff uh but especially 1908 on a bracelet a heartbreaker

yeah really good and tantan the GMT with the Sarah car lot of the stuff, but especially 1908 on a bracelet, a heartbreaker.

Yeah.

Really good.

And Tantan, the GMT with the saracrome dial, the difference that a matte dial makes to a modern,

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