Washington's Tariff Whack-a-Mole
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🗓️ 12 May 2026
⏱️ 23 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | Hello everyone and welcome to the Cato podcast. |
| 0:07.0 | My name is Clark Packard. I'm a research fellow and Cato's Herbert A. Steeple Center for Trade Policy Studies. |
| 0:13.0 | And I am Alfredo Carrillo Obregone. I am a policy analyst at the Steeple Center. |
| 0:18.0 | Today we're here to discuss Section 122 of the Trade Act of 1974, |
| 0:23.7 | which is the legal basis for President Trump's latest tariffs and the subject of a new |
| 0:28.8 | Cato briefing paper that Alfredo and I wrote. So a little more than a year ago, the president |
| 0:33.9 | imposed aggressive tariffs under the International Emergency Economic Powers Act. |
| 0:39.3 | Those tariffs were challenged in court, and back in late February, the U.S. Supreme Court struck them down in a six to three decision. |
| 0:47.6 | During the press conference, shortly thereafter, the president announced a new slate of 10% tariffs imposed under Section 122 of the Trade Act of |
| 0:58.2 | 1974. Section 122 tariff authority is based on large and serious balance of payments problems |
| 1:04.9 | facing the U.S. These temporary tariffs will expire this number. Think of them as bridge tariffs, while the administration investigates and will subsequently |
| 1:15.0 | impose permanent tariffs on a number of trading partners under Section 301 of the Trade Act. |
| 1:21.8 | Section 122 tariffs were challenged in court by some private sector plaintiffs who paid tariffs under Section 122, |
| 1:29.4 | as well as a group of 24 different states. On May 7th, the Court of International Trade issued a |
| 1:36.4 | two to one decision, striking down the tariffs, but dismissing 23 states for lack of standing. |
| 1:43.0 | Only the state of Washington established that it had standing since |
| 1:47.2 | the University of Washington is essentially an instrumentality of the state government, and they were |
| 1:53.2 | able to show that they had paid Section 122 tariffs. The Trump administration announced shortly after |
| 2:00.7 | that decision that it was appealing the court's ruling, and we will see how this litigation plays out. |
| 2:07.5 | So with that, let me turn it over to my colleague and co-author on the paper, Alfredo. |
| 2:13.0 | So walk us through Section 122. What is it? What led to its creation? |
| 2:19.0 | Section 122 of the Trade Act of 1974 allows the precedent to impose terrorists in response to, quote, international payments problems, which results from a combination of international trade and investment factors. |
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