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DeMoris Smith is going to join us in just about an hour.

He's the former executive director of the NFLPA.

They had a couple of different NFL directors since he retired.

Yes. Well, they, uh, their guy already got lost his job.

Yeah, he got dismissed.

Yeah, already. He had to step down or whatever.

What did he do again?

Well, there were issues about all kinds of stuff.

Like strip club expenses that were getting billed back to the,

oh, okay.

He also wasn't acknowledging other companies that were compensating him for things

Yeah like conflicts of interest

A little bit shady

Yeah, it wasn't a great run for that guy

Can't remember his name, but I can look at all, maybe Lloyd Howl

That makes sense

Yeah, there was been some turmoil there with like J.C.

Treterter, whatever, you know,

a bunch of guys there like on the board. I don't know. It's kind of a mess. God, he's got to be so thankful that he's out of that business. Just out of that. He was torn its nest. He did it 14 years. That's a long guy. He made a lot of money.

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