And So, Don't come on on. Well, welcome back to the Red Nation podcast, V.J. How's it going?

Well, it's great to be with you. We had such a great time last time.

I just remember laughing through the whole interview, so I'm happy to be back.

I hope we're laughing this time as well.

Well, I think, you know, the first question on everyone's mind if they pick up your book is,

how did you get Evo Morales to write the introduction?

Well, you know, I'm going to Lai Zaima was the most recent person who was overthrown by essentially

Washington bullets. The coup data of November 2019, you know, it sort of opened a window to all past coups, assassinations, suffocations by the United States government and in many ways if I'm

completely honest with you the book was written in a way against those who believed this was not a coup you know I had to start in writing the book before December and

I had him write in mind when I was writing the whole book and he looked like a figure who had so many predecessors, you know, going back to Arbans in Guatemala in 54 Ie in Chile 73 and

then you know people whose names are not so familiar in Thailand in Indonesia

and so on.

So I was very keen that the book,

you know, we pay due respect to what had happened to him.

And so I approached them and said said here's the book and our friends in Argentina where he is

based now approached him and he read the manuscript and wrote the preface and I was very heartened to read what he had written because

You know I think he felt that this is indeed his story and this is the prehistory of what happened in Bolivia in November 2019.

It's the prehistory, yes, it's also a process that seems unabated, which is the battle between the forces of decolonization,

of which he is a major figure in that process of decolonization and the

forces of imperialism you know centered around Washington DC and you know it's

bullets.

Right and reading this book one can help see those

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