Hello, I'm Hugo Rifkin, and now we're going to be unpacking all the politics of the day

from another conservative defecting to reform UK to whether AI means we're entering an age of anti-intellectualism.

And joining me two intellectuals who've defected to my columnist panel for the day, and they are Zoe Strimple,

historian, author, newspaper columnist and broadcaster.

Yay, the titles are back.

Didn't have academic in there, that's a shame.

God, I feel so undervalued.

Yeah, I'll try and get some more next time.

Keen, Keen Cook, Wincer.

Windsurfer.

Would be food influencer.

Would be food influencer so not food influencer zori strimple and tim Montgomery has almost as many

strings to his bow as well he's a broadcaster a podcaster reform UK supporter and he's founded

loads of things how are you Tim I very well you normally introduce me as your former boss which I think

gives me a sort of authority oh wow Hugo's former boss and Hugo was my former boss. So it's just an interesting power relations in this room.

In a way, Tim, you were like Zoe's grand boss.

Yes.

The boss of my boss.

Yeah.

The boss of my boss is my friend.

I'm not sure how that works at all.

I think we should stop at that point.

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