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Hello and welcome to Coffee How Shots, the spectator's daily politics podcast.

I'm Max Jeffrey and I'm joined by Katie Balls and James Heel.

It was first PMQ's after the summer recess. Katie, can you tell us what happened?

Yes, we're in that slightly strange parliament return before conference season.

I think when you speak to MPs, they say it can often feel a bit driftless and directionless

because everyone knows they're about to be off for several weeks and really is conference season

that kick starts to next phase for both leaders and so forth.

Prime Minister's questions, I think to no one's surprise, Keir Starmer went on schools, school

closures. He tried to accuse this government of effectively being similar to Cowboy Builders over

Rack and then Rishi Siena kept that by trying to suggest that Captain Heine's like Keir Starmer

hadn't ever really been very interested in the issue and it's not also Labour had been

or Keir Starmer specifically had raised this previously. There's now a rower going as to where

the Keir Starmer was all over Rack before it happened and I think that if you, for example,

in a speech, he did refer to schools crumbling. However, schools can crumble for it. He didn't

say because of bubbly concrete and often you do hear Labour painting that picture of austerity,

decline in the crumbling buildings. So I think both sides are trying to say that.

That is, once I'd saying that doesn't count on the other side saying, look, look, he doesn't need

Heine's like he had brilliant foresight. Who came out on top? I think that it's one of those

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