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🗓️ 25 August 2025
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| 0:00.0 | We have a special guest today. |
| 0:06.1 | Dr. Josh Swamadas joins us to talk about his article for Christianity Today on the infamous Scopes trial. |
| 0:14.8 | This summer marked the 100th anniversary of that very significant event. |
| 0:19.1 | It's probably not an exaggeration to say that this was |
| 0:23.0 | the O.J. trial of the time. In fact, it probably surpassed the O.J. Simpson trial as far as |
| 0:30.0 | impact. And as Josh points out in his article, it still echoes today and in many ways parallels the times in which we're living. |
| 0:41.5 | So, Bill, if you would do the honors and introduce Josh, we'll dive into this article. |
| 0:46.8 | Joshua Swami Das is an information biologist and physician at Washington University in St. Louis. He's also the author of a book, |
| 0:59.9 | the genealogical Adam and Eve, which has served to spark a great deal of contemporary |
| 1:07.1 | discussion about the historicity of Adam and Eve and the character of the Genesis |
| 1:13.6 | narratives concerning this couple. And I first met Joss several years ago at a conference at |
| 1:20.8 | Trinity Evangelical Divinity School. I was struck by both his presence as well as what he was saying. |
| 1:29.2 | And that was the beginning of a wonderful friendship that has continued right up to the |
| 1:35.1 | present time. |
| 1:36.3 | Yeah, it's amazing how far we've come. |
| 1:39.0 | That was in 2017 that we met, Bill. |
| 1:41.4 | I remember as clear as day the way we met and what we talked about. |
| 1:46.7 | And man, so much has happened since then, hasn't it? Yeah. Well, Josh, on the topic today, |
| 1:52.2 | how about giving us an overview of the Scopes trial for anyone who might be unfamiliar with it? |
| 2:00.3 | That's a great place to start. |
| 2:01.7 | There's a lot that I can say. |
| 2:03.6 | You mentioned the O.J. Simpson trial, and that's a good comparison in some important ways. |
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