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THIS IS HISTORY — A DYNASTY TO DIE FOR

Was the Queen of England a French spy?

THIS IS HISTORY — A DYNASTY TO DIE FOR

Sony Music

History, Society & Culture

4.82.5K Ratings

🗓️ 13 February 2026

⏱️ 38 minutes

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Summary

Hello! We’ve gifted one of Dan’s favourite bonus episodes from Season 9 just for you. To listen to all bonus episodes, ad-free, subscribe at patreon.com/thisishistory Dan and Producer Al explore the likelihood of Margaret of Anjou, the English queen, having been a sleeper agent for the French. How involved was she in getting Henry VI to give up Maine? And what made Henry so useless? Did he have any redeeming features? – A Sony Music Entertainment production.  Find more great podcasts from Sony Music Entertainment at sonymusic.com/podcasts  To bring your brand to life in this podcast, email podcastadsales@sonymusic.com  Learn more about your ad choices.  Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices  Presented by Dan Jones and Alan Weedon Senior Producer - Dominic Tyerman Executive Producer - Simon Poole  Production Manager - Jen Mistri  Production coordinator - Eric Ryan  Mixing - Gulliver Lawrence-Tickell Head of content - Chris Skinner Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Hello friends, I'm doing something different this week. You'll notice this is history has dropped into your feed twice. Don't worry, I've got a special gift for you. I wanted to give you a taste of what we do on our bonus episodes, so I've done you all a solid and gifted you one of my favourites from this season so far. In it, producer Al and I introduce you to the doe-eyed King Henry VI for the first time.

0:26.6

Plus, we meet his assertive and intelligent bride-to-be, Queen Margaret of Anjou, fresh off the boat from France.

0:34.3

Remember, you can get all bonus episodes ad-free and on video over at patreon.com

0:40.3

forward slash this is history. Now, let's start the episode.

0:44.1

The Cock John.

0:55.6

What is that?

0:57.0

What?

0:58.0

That's what I call it.

0:59.5

What's that?

1:00.3

Never mind.

1:03.8

So the Cock John, yeah, funny name for a ship.

1:07.5

I have a suspicion that this is a transliteration of cog John, because a cog is a

1:14.6

regular type of, it's a large sort of merchant type ship in the 1415th century.

1:21.6

So I think it's probably the cog John.

1:23.5

Typically you see ships in this period, and I'm thinking back to when I wrote Lionheart's,

1:27.9

the novel, which was all about naval battles.

1:31.8

Typically, they're called the cog and then the name of a saint or something like that.

1:35.7

So I think cog rather than cock, cog over cock.

1:39.9

Okay, well, that's my motto.

1:41.8

You may have a different one.

1:43.0

I wouldn't like to talk about it. I'm just going to leave my motto. You may have a different one. I wouldn't like to stop.

2:00.8

I'm just going to leave my motto decision making to one side and maybe we should get this show on the road. The ship on the road. The ship, um, birthing? I don't know. I'm going to stop this. Ship on the sea. Ship on the sea. That's it. Let's set sail on the good ship. That is, This Is History Plus. Indeed. Hello and welcome.

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