This is my overriding conversation piece for this show, actually, in terms of the mindset of the manager in terms of the approach, the attitude, however you want to sort of frame it.

And this is where I've been battling with myself, really, in the past 12 hours, whatever it's been since full time. because again, on the face of it,

if you'd have offered me 2-0 prior to kick-off,

given all the feelings we had heading into this game,

I'd have probably gone,

do you know what, I shake your hand at that.

Get back to the me 2-0 prior to kickoff, given all the feelings we had heading into this game, and I'd probably go, do you know what? I shake your hand at that. Get back to the roundfield 2-0, let's see what happens. But because of how it went, and because of what I watched, I'm also a little bit out. I'm contradicting myself constantly really, because again on the face of it it's a great result

and there's clearly a gulf between the two sides but I can't shake the feeling John or the

question that did we do enough now I know we expected to get beat perhaps even in a worse manner

and it definitely should have been given the way the game went but the no shot on target thing

the submissive nature of the performance,

it felt that we waved the white flag a little bit again,

no scala coming on.

I didn't expect us to die on our sword last night,

but we did, nothing.

It was interesting for me that the only time we threatened

was from a very, what's the word,

a very training ground corner that we took

with Van Dyke doing sort of histrionics

in the middle waving his arms around.

Gravenberg, who never takes corners.

Yeah.

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