What up, what up, Michael Steele here, man of steel podcast. Welcome to another episode

of enlightening fast pace conversation between me and a guest about whatever is going on

out there in the world. We want you to be a part of it too. Just to share a little backstory

every once in a while so you get a sense of what's going on and to help us do that today,

I'm really excited about this brother. I always have been he's phenomenal. He's a Pulitzer

Prize winning journalist, member of the Washington Post editorial board. He writes about politics

and social issues for the postpartisan blog and hosts the K-pop podcast. He is the one

and only Jonathan K-pop. K-pop. Well, there we are. That's what I call branding. You can have

someone mess up your name but still bug your podcast. Same part. I'm good that way. I kind

of bring it like that. But what makes this so he's also not just a good friend. He's an

MSNBC political analyst like myself. So it's good to have you, man. It's good to have

you be a part of the program is to keep up. So I keep the branding going. Why not?

Yeah. Thank you very much for having me on my one disappointment is that I could not

do for you what you did for me when my podcast started and that was to be your very first

guest. I know. I try. But I'm happy to be within within the first five. But you are on

the French River era something like that, right? I saw pictures of some very exclusive

expensive looking stuff. So I figured you weren't here. Well, you were probably looking way

back on my Instagram feed because I don't know where I will. Oh, no, I was in Minnesota

with the in-laws. Well, like I said, the French River. Yeah, that's yeah. Yeah, French

River. It's a lake. It's a river between two lakes in Minnesota far from the French River

of the Arab, but both so peaceful. But also peaceful and you were with families. So we're glad to

have you here. So look, this is just, you know, this is not an interview. This is a conversation. So

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