Was Richard III a Failure?
THIS IS HISTORY — A DYNASTY TO DIE FOR
Sony Music
4.8 • 2.5K Ratings
🗓️ 7 April 2026
⏱️ 35 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | I should have brought it, but I found a photograph. |
| 0:03.3 | I was clearing out a box of photographs, which sounds like a task that only happens in novels, but I was actually doing it. I found a photograph of you in my parents' kitchen. I don't know what you were doing there. I do know. It was my 21st birthday party. I remember that party. Do you? Yeah. And when I was looking at the photos, I didn't really remember much, but I was like, no, there's Elizabeth. |
| 0:24.4 | I don't think... first birthday party. I remember that party. Do you? Yeah. And when I was looking at the photo, |
| 0:22.3 | I didn't really remember much, but I was like, fuck, no, there's Elizabeth. I don't think I really |
| 0:25.4 | knew you that well up until that point, because how we met, we were both at university together, |
| 0:31.7 | and I was dating your friend. You were. But I remember you being the year below, and at that stage in life, |
| 0:38.6 | it feels like a really big age gap. And I was like, who's this young bug? And I don't think |
| 0:46.3 | we ever really spoke that much, but I was just aware that you're in the vicinity. And Rick, |
| 0:51.4 | my then boyfriend, referred to you as dollar. He did. That was your name as far as I was concerned. But then I was invited as Rick's Plus One, to your 21st. And it was really lovely because, as you say, it was in your family home. There was a marquee. I remember thinking, well, that's grown up. You're making me sound a bit posh. And over the years, we've fallen in and out of contact because our friendship |
| 1:12.9 | was only really established through podcasting. And that's when we reconnected. And I feel like |
| 1:19.3 | that's when we had our first proper conversation. And during the course of that conversation, |
| 1:25.4 | I remember Richard the third coming up. |
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