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The Peter Schiff Show Podcast

Was Q3 GDP Rigged Just In Time For The Election? Ep. 206

The Peter Schiff Show Podcast

Peter Schiff

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4.65.9K Ratings

🗓️ 29 October 2016

⏱️ 36 minutes

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Summary


* Yesterday we finally got the release of the initial estimate for Q4 GDP
* The Atlanta Fed had originally come out with an estimate of about 3.8 and had steadily reduced their estimate
* They got down as low as 1.9 before ratcheting it up a couple of times and their estimate was at 2.1 when we got the official release
* And the number came out at 2.9; not only much higher than Atlanta Fed's estimate, but much higher than the consensus forecast at 2.5
* I am very suspicious of this number
* This is the strongest number in over 2 years and it comes out less than 2 weeks before the election
* Of course one of Donald Trump's issues has been the weak GDP growth, which has averaged just 1% for the last 3 quarters
* All of a sudden it's 2/9?
* Does anybody really believe that suddenly the U.S. economy in the fall of 2016 was 3 times as strong as the last 3 quarters?
* I dont' think so.  I don't believe that for a second
* I do believe that after the election when we get the revisions we will get a downward revision to this number
* But, even if this number were real; even if it holds up
* If you average the last 4 quarters to get the entire year, looking back, you're just below 1.5% for the entire year, which is still extremely weak growth
* Once you look beneath the surface of this 2.9, it's very easy to see how they rigged it, to use Donald Trump's expression
* Not that it's some kind of a conspiracy
* Look at these numbers - there was a 10% spike in exports - this the biggest gain in exports in 3 years
* It's not in manufactured products that we're exporting, where you've got some high-paying jobs
* It was primarily let by a one-time surge in soybean exports
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0:00.0

The Peter Ship Show.

0:09.9

Well yesterday we finally got the release of the initial estimate for the third quarter

0:16.7

GDP and that is the GDP estimate which the Atlanta Fed had originally come out at about

0:23.2

3.8 early on and they had steadily reduced their estimate.

0:28.0

They got down to as low as 1.9 before rationing it off a couple of times and their estimate

0:34.8

was at 2.1 when we got the official release and the number came out at 2.9 not only much

0:43.2

higher than what the Atlanta Fed had been estimating but much higher than the consensus forecast

0:50.5

which had been 2.5.

0:52.1

Now I am very suspicious of this number.

0:56.0

This is the strongest number in over two years and it comes out less than two weeks before

1:03.2

the election and of course one of the issues Donald Trump has had has been the weak GDP

1:08.5

growth which has averaged just 1% for the last three quarters.

1:14.4

All of a sudden it is 2.9 and the triple does anybody really believe that suddenly the

1:20.3

US economy in the fall of 2015 all of a sudden was 3 times as strong as it has been for

1:29.4

the last three quarters.

1:30.4

I don't think so.

1:31.4

I don't believe that for a second and I do believe that after the election when we get

1:37.2

the revisions we will get a downward revision to this number but even if this number were

1:43.0

real and even if it holds up if you average the last four to get the entire year looking

1:51.6

back you are still barely at 1.5% you are just below 1.5% for the entire year which is

1:59.3

still extremely weak growth.

2:03.5

But once you look beneath the surface of this 2.9 it is very easy to see how they rigged

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