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Offline with Jon Favreau

Was Luigi Mangione Too Online?

Offline with Jon Favreau

Crooked Media

Society & Culture, News

4.72K Ratings

🗓️ 15 December 2024

⏱️ 56 minutes

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Summary

The more we learn about the alleged killer of UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson, the more his digital footprint falls into the Offline wheelhouse. Luigi Mangione has posted about Jonathan Haidt and Catherine Price; on Twitter he follows everyone from AOC to Ezra Klein to Joe Rogan. And don’t get us started on his Goodreads profile! Jon and Max talk through the internet's embrace of a suspected murderer, and whether the edgelords really believe what they’re posting. But first! The DC Circuit Court of Appeals rejected TikTok’s attempt to overturn an impending ban, which is scheduled to take effect next month—unless Trump or SCOTUS intervene. Plus, Max rants about the American Society of Anesthesiologists and Jon talks about what drove him to write an article for The Atlantic.

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the most online-brained part of the manifesto that I've heard in a million different ways from

0:08.0

others who did not kill CEOs. Again, this is non-ideological. This is across the political

0:14.1

spectrum. Obviously, the problem is more complex, but I do not have space. And frankly,

0:19.9

I do not pretend to be the most qualified person to lay out the full argument.

0:24.2

It is not an issue of awareness at this point, but clearly power games at play.

0:28.6

Evidently, I am the first to face it with such brutal honesty. many people I've talked to who work in Silicon Valley who were like I came into work today and I was looking around at the desk and being like that guy that guy that guy are all Luigi Manjione

0:41.3

I'm John Favro I'm Max Fisher Max welcome back thank you we lots to cover. There's so much going on in the offline world.

0:55.8

So much.

0:57.5

Maybe another friend of the pot out there.

1:00.3

Taking it a little far.

1:05.0

Think hard about that offline challenge.

1:06.8

Unrequited.

1:07.4

Yeah, that's right.

1:08.6

It should be clear.

1:09.5

It's an unrequited friendship of the pot.

1:12.2

So, before we get to that, last week, the D.C. Circuit Court of Appeals rejected TikTok's attempt to overturn a law banning the Chinese own platform from the app stores unless the company finds a new owner.

1:23.6

This ruling means that unless TikTok is granted an emergency motion to pause the law and hope that either the Supreme Court takes up its case, the incoming Trump administration decides not to enforce the man or the incoming Republican Congress repeals the ban.

1:37.3

The popular video app is currently scheduled to face a nationwide ban beginning on January 19th of 2025.

1:44.6

So TikTok challenged the law on First Amendment grounds, arguing that a potential ban would deny

1:50.1

Americans' access to TikTok as a venue for public expression.

1:54.4

They also attempted to dispute the law's claim that TikTok was a national security risk.

1:59.8

The D.C. Circuit did not by either argument, with a three-judge panel ruling unanimously

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