After the election, I was doing a lot of comforting of others.

And I guess I hadn't realized how much I needed someone to ask me, like, how I'm doing.

You were one of the first people who actually reached out outside of my immediate family

and asked how I was doing.

And I was telling my wife, Emily, that.

And she's like, I I mean that's amazing she

goes I'm also a little troubled by the fact that the surgeon general had to check in on you

she's like I don't know what that says about you we are just looking for someone to recognize

us see us yeah like dig a little deeper than hey how's it going and then just like move on which I do all the time to people you know hey how's it going? And then just, like, move on, which I do all the time to people, you know, hey, how's it going?

And then you just move on.

What you said is exactly right.

And I think it's really deceptive from the outside.

Because in the outside, it looks like everyone's got everything figured out, that they're living

great lives, they're hanging out with lots of friends, and that they're constantly engaged

with social events. The reality is like profoundly different.

It's a lot of people who are bumping into others, but feeling like they can't be themselves.

They're walking around with masks on, feeling like they need to perform in some way.

I feel like people don't necessarily know them for who they are.

I'm John Fabro.

I'm Max Fisher.

And you just heard from today's guest, Surgeon General Vivek Murthy.

If you're a longtime listener, you know the Surgeon General has been a frequent offline guest.

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