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Was COP26 really worth crying about?

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4.4785 Ratings

🗓️ 10 December 2021

⏱️ 32 minutes

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Summary

When the Glasgow climate jamboree ended after two weeks, COP26 President Alok Sharma broke down in tears and seemed to apologise for his failure to get countries like China and India on side. But now that the dust has settled from Glasgow's COP26 summit, but how will this one be remembered? There were protestors, no shows from state leaders and new commitments were made whilst backroom wrangling had mixed results.

What are the key factors that make these summits a success? Given the mammoth task ahead of the countries that have committed to tacking climate change, is it realistic to expect real change?

In this podcast, Cindy Yu is joined by seasoned professionals in climate change and sustainability. Harriet Lamb, CBE and CEO of Ashden which is an organisation that supports and promotes sustainable energy enterprises. Emily Thornberry MP who is shadow attorney general but was Labour's shadow international trade secretary at the time of recording this podcast. Finally, Simone Rossi, who is the CEO of EDF Energy.

This podcast is kindly sponsored by EDF Energy.

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0:00.0

May I just say to all delegates, I apologize for the way this process has unfolded,

0:09.0

and I'm deeply sorry.

0:12.0

I also understand the deep disappointment.

0:17.0

But I think as you have noted, it's also vital that we protect this package.

0:26.2

That was the COP-206 President Alok Sharma, holding back tears at the end of the two-week summit.

0:32.5

But was Glasgow really such a failure?

0:35.2

Hello and welcome to a special episode of the Spectators podcast.

0:39.0

I'm Cindy Yu, the Spectator's broadcast editor. And today we'll be reflecting on the highs and lows

0:44.4

of COP26. We saw many protesters, but didn't see some wild leaders. New commitments were made

0:51.0

while backroom wrangling, as Alok Sharma found out, had mixed results.

0:55.8

To discuss this and more, I talked to seasoned experts in the world of climate change and sustainability a few weeks ago.

1:02.6

Harriet Lamb, CBE, is the CEO of Ashton, an organisation which supports and promotes sustainable energy and enterprises around the world.

1:12.5

Emily Thornbury is the Shadow Attorney General for England and Wales, but was the Shadow International Trade Secretary

1:16.8

when we recorded this podcast just before the Labour reshuffle. And finally, Simone Rossi,

1:22.1

the CEO of EDF Energy, who are kindly sponsoring this podcast. To start with, I asked Harriet Lamb what she made of how the government did

1:30.9

on Boris Johnson's self-declared negotiating priorities of coal, cars, cash and trees.

1:37.3

Well, you'd have to say that on some of them he made substantial progress,

1:41.4

or rather, COP 26 and the nations as a whole, did make progress that

1:46.2

for the first time we really did have a commitment in the end to phase down, not phase out

1:53.3

coal, but nonetheless a commitment from the whole of COP to really make progress with coal.

1:59.2

And that's no question a win.

2:01.6

There were also wins on cars and wins on trees in terms of bold statements and ambitions,

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