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Soteriology 101 w/ Dr. Leighton Flowers

Was Clement of Rome a Calvinist?

Soteriology 101 w/ Dr. Leighton Flowers

Leighton Flowers

Baptist, Atonement, Reformed, Bible, Religion & Spirituality, Calvinism, Biblical, Arminianism, Calvin, Christianity, Christian

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🗓️ 11 September 2023

⏱️ 46 minutes

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Summary

James White tweeted a post yesterday that implied Clement of Rome's letter to Corinth demonstrated a "Calvinistic" understanding of election.

Was Clement of Rome a Calvinist because he used the word "elect" a lot? No. He talked about election the same way the other early church fathers did in their writings. 

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Transcript

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0:00.0

Oh, and welcome back to Sociology 101.

0:13.5

Today, hopefully we're not going to be too long.

0:15.7

You know how that goes with sometimes when we plan one thing, we'll end up going

0:18.9

a whole other direction.

0:20.6

But my plan today is just to respond to a tweet that was just put out yesterday by James White

0:27.3

regarding Clement of Rome.

0:29.7

Now, we've done some back and forth and days gone past about early church fathers and some of the writings and all those kinds of things.

0:36.9

But I'm going to try to limit our discussion to this particular tweet

0:40.7

and kind of just cover the fallacy inherent within these kinds of tweets.

0:46.9

In my estimation, James White reads the Bible a lot like he reads,

0:51.4

Clement of Rome, with the preconceived kind of downloaded concept of

0:57.1

election being God's unilateral decision to save certain people before they're ever born.

1:02.5

Anytime he sees the word elect, he just downloads that information into that word and

1:08.3

therefore Isojit's Clement, much like he isogeets Paul.

1:12.3

Now that's my claim. Obviously, he might, you know, make the same accusation towards us as

1:16.7

provisionist that we somehow, you know, are exegeting or isogeeding our belief in God's love

1:22.9

and provision for all people into the text. Heaven forbid we do that. But nevertheless, we want to look at this in its context and also see all of Klemich's

1:34.2

writings in order to understand them rightly.

1:36.6

Before we jump into this, let me remind you as what is scrolling on the bottom of the

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