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Inside the Hive

Was Boeing the Start of the A.I. Apocalypse?

Inside the Hive

Vanity Fair

News

4.21.5K Ratings

🗓️ 29 March 2019

⏱️ 52 minutes

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Summary

The airline industry is one of the most regulated in the world, yet a potential software bug on Boeing’s 737 Max may have killed hundreds of people. Should we be worried the same thing could happen with driverless cars, drones, and delivery robots in the not-too-distant future? Clive Thompson, author of the new book, “Coders,” joins Nick to explain what we can do to stop cyberterrorists or a rogue nation from using code instead of bombs to kill us all. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Season 2 of Julia, the Max Original Series about the Life and Times of Julia Child returns

0:09.5

Thursday, November 16th.

0:11.6

Stream on Max and listen to dishing on Julia, the official companion

0:15.6

podcast. Welcome to Inside the Hive. I am your host Nick Bilton. So we're going to take a break from Donald

0:25.4

Trump. We're going to take a break from Mueller. We're going to take a break from

0:28.4

2020 and we're going to talk about something even more terrifying and that is when software starts to

0:34.9

kill people. Which it turns out is already probably happening. So a few weeks ago as you all

0:41.1

probably know Boeing 737 Max another one actually crashed and

0:45.8

killed hundreds of people this is the second one in eight months and it turns

0:49.5

out now that we do believe that investigators believe that that was a result of a software

0:55.4

bug. So I decided who better to have on the show than someone who has just written a

1:01.4

book about all of the way software and coding is

1:05.3

implemented in our lives and how it may go rogue one day and destroy us all. So my

1:11.5

guest today is Clive Thompson. Now Clive is a brilliant

1:15.8

brilliant writer. He's been writing for Wired in the New York Times

1:18.4

magazine and tons of places like that for many many years. He's written a

1:22.3

couple of books his last

1:24.2

book was called Smarter Than You Think how technology is changing our minds for the

1:29.0

better and his new book which just came out this week is called Coders the making of a new tribe

1:35.1

and the remaking of the world and Clive has this ability to look at things I

1:39.8

always look at them with a very negative point of view.

1:43.0

Clive does the complete opposite and is always able to look at the positive,

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