Hello and welcome to another ancient warfare magazine podcast, first one of 2020.

Coming up to 100 episodes in a few, I think.

But in the meantime, we're going to discuss the topic of ancient warfare issue 13-4, which is chariots in the ancient world.

We've got a lot of questions.

It's clearly an interesting topic. And we're going to see

how we go through all these. Gosh, there's another question that just came in. Why shall we start

with chariots? There's so much to say. There's 2,000 years of history, and there's a lot of stuff we

know and a lot of stuff we don't know. What is it, what is a good one? Maybe we'll just

start at the, start at the end with sized chariots because they're fun. Actually, the questions

begin and end with side chariots. So, Mike, you said that's a hot button. So shall I just

push your button? The argument has been made that side chariots aren't really effective.

And the real example that is given is Galgamela, right?

They're really abysical performance at Galgamela.

Pre-groomed brown, tight heavy infantry formations.

These are Pesthet's thyroid, Hellenistic, in this case, Macedonian phalanxes, that really the side chariot is

tailor made to take apart. And in the case of Galgamela, and then also in the case of

magnesium later, we have a light infantry response where mobile skirmishers are able to take these

cars apart from a distance.

And in the case of magnesium, in fact, this, by the way, for those listeners who need a refresher,

is Antiochus the third battle against Roman 190 BC in Western Turkey.

We actually have some side chariots where the horses were driven mad, turning back into the salucid lines and disrupting the salucid left, which Humanees of Pergamon takes advantage of and which spells disaster for Antious.

So these are two very sort of celebrated examples that people believe demonstrate that the side chariot was...

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