perhaps predictable reaction against the forces of globalization

that swept through us during the 80s and 90s but left and the aught perhaps but left people behind and so you had a

conglomeration of people who felt that they hadn't benefited from

globalization you saw this spread of inequality in Europe and in the United States and this is a kick back

against that with charismatic leaders you say look I'm out for you I'm out for the little guy whether you are from the left

or from the right doesn't matter it's the little guy against the big guys the little guy. guy, whether you are from the left or from the right, it's the little guy against

the establishment.

That is a common thread and there are three things that unite this movement, you know, across

countries.

It is a hostility to trade a feeling that globalization

has gone too far it's a hostility of migration and a feeling that there's too much

mixing particularly the regular kind of fear also of the hegemonic left and what that's become.

It almost came after NAFTA here in the United States, the reaction of the anti-globalist

beginnings of that.

And the irony is that you hear from agricultural people,

farmers as well as big agriculture,

and big business, that they need migration,

they need labor.

We're developing a labor shortage here actually in the United States, but the

border issue is certainly an immigration issue has the most compelling force behind it.

It doesn't make economic sense.

What is so fascinating is how is it gets tied up with a pro-Russia thing?

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