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Offline with Jon Favreau

“WarGames” with Jon Lovett and Ben Rhodes

Offline with Jon Favreau

Crooked Media

Society & Culture, News

4.72K Ratings

🗓️ 22 August 2024

⏱️ 64 minutes

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Summary

Jon Lovett and Ben Rhodes join Max to explore how 1983’s “WarGames” predicted the internet era. The film is a fascinating time capsule of Reagan era tech optimism, nuclear war doomerism, and Matthew Broderick’s puckish charm. Ben dives into the foreign policy behind the movie, drawing on his own experience traveling the country with Obama and a briefcase of nuclear codes. Lovett reminisces about 80s computing, marvels at how technology has changed since then, and talks shop on tic-tac-toe. This and more on Offline Movie Club: The Sequel!

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I'm not saying war games under the Cold War. I'm saying that. I'm not not saying that it's on the table. I am saying that there was this kind of pop culture tip from like the jingoistic version of things to the like let's like for the good of humanity get on top of these

0:16.1

weapons and you know figure things out and I think this is kind of right at that

0:20.0

hinge point where you could see that turn happening, yeah? Yeah.

0:23.2

Because it's wholesome and patriotic in a Reagan-era way,

0:25.6

while having a message that is like,

0:27.6

hey, let's not let the nuclear weapons kill assault. I'm Max Fisher. I'm John Lovett and I'm Ben Rhodes. This is the offline movie club

0:40.0

every episode we discuss one of our favorite movies and how it reflects or shapes how we think about technology and the internet.

0:46.0

Guys, we're kicking off our second round of this. We did six of these early in the year, people really liked it.

0:51.0

So we are back. This is the first of our second round of six with some fun

0:54.4

surprises ahead. This week we are talking War Games, the 1983 family

0:59.6

blockbuster in which Ferris Buehler fights Chat TPT for control of America's strategic nuclear

1:05.4

arsenal until they discover the power of friendship and join forces.

1:10.3

Strange game, the only winning book is not too late.

1:17.0

How about a nice game of Jess. Guys, it's a strange podcast. The only winning move is not to pod.

1:29.0

Oh, that's a good one.

1:31.0

Yeah, yeah, yeah, you really...

1:32.0

Yeah, yeah, yeah, Interesting. Yeah, yeah.

1:33.0

Something to think about.

1:35.0

Well, we're going to put anyway.

1:36.0

All right, Ben, let's kick it to you to start things off.

1:38.0

What do you think makes this movie important for how we think about technology and the internet?

1:44.0

Well, I think this movie taps into like our deepest anxieties that technology is going to

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