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WW2 Pod: We Have Ways of Making You Talk

Warbirds of Liberty: The Fantastic Fighting 4th - Transition (Part 2)

WW2 Pod: We Have Ways of Making You Talk

Goalhanger Podcasts

History, Education, Society & Culture

4.85.3K Ratings

🗓️ 12 February 2026

⏱️ 45 minutes

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Summary

What made American pilots want to fight in WW2 before Pearl Harbor? When did The United States of America join WW2? How did Eagle Squadron pilots transfer to The Fourth Fighter Group? Join Al Murray and James Holland for Part 2 of this new series looking at the larger-than-life American aces that flew to every corner of the Nazi empire, starting with Spitfires in the dark days of The Battle Of Britain to P-51 Mustangs at the closing stages of WW2. Start your free trial at ⁠patreon.com/wehaveways⁠ and unlock exclusive content and more. Enjoy livestreams, early access, ad-free listening, bonus episodes, and a weekly newsletter packed with book deals and behind-the-scenes insights. Members also get priority access and discounts to live events. A Goalhanger Production Produced by James Regan Editor: Charlie Rodwell Exec Producer: Tony Pastor Social: @WeHaveWaysPod Social Producer: Harry Balden Email: wehaveways@goalhanger.com Membership Club: patreon.com/wehaveways Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Thank you for listening to We Have Ways of Making You Talk.

0:05.0

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0:13.4

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0:16.2

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0:39.0

Five months ago, I came here when the first group of you were transferred to Eight Fighter Command.

0:45.3

You will never know what it meant to us to receive a group of fully trained operational pilots.

0:49.6

It has formed a nucleus around which we built our fighting machine.

0:54.6

And that was, of course, Major General Frank Hunter, who's the chief of the eighth fighter command,

0:58.1

awarding medallions to pilots on the 4th of February, 1943.

1:07.2

Welcome to, we have ways of making you talk with Miao Murray and James Holland for the second part of our series, Warbirds.

1:10.7

Yes, the Mighty Fighting Fourth, part two. Well, the fabulous fighting fourth.

1:12.2

Fabulous fighting fourth. Why not? I mean, fantastic fighting for what? Those of you

1:16.7

listened to the last episode probably think this is all a bit on the nose, all a bit Hollywood.

1:21.5

Scouts on her. This is what happened, isn't it, Jim? These are the people involved.

1:26.2

So, cool blokes with aviator sunglasses.

1:30.8

Square jaws.

1:31.6

Square jaws.

1:32.5

Hundreds of hours in their logbook.

1:34.8

And I'm just thinking of the havoc of them turning up in High Wycombe or somewhere

1:39.4

like that and impressingly dazzling the locals.

1:42.8

But there we are.

1:43.5

So, in the last episode, we took you through the Three Eagle Squadrons,

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