This is a special update from Unholy.

I'm Jonathan Friedland in London.

And I'm Unite Levine in Tel Aviv.

And lots, obviously, going on a change of leadership in Iran's mixed signals from Donald Trump

about the when this might end.

And also just obviously, day-to-day life is continuing under bombardment for you,

Yonit.

So we just thought we'd pull together all of that, and we're going to have a conversation with somebody who I really, really rate extremely highly as an observer of Iran,

who has a very sort of dissenting view compared to a lot of the sort of consensus

that's formulating or forming around Iran.

So lots to get into in this. Why don't we just start with you

and how it, how it is hour by hour. And I don't say day by day, but hour by hour.

You know, I think this is a, it's interesting because there are moments over these two and

half years where I think the community outside Israel and inside Israel felt the same way, right?

I mean, throughout, for example, the hostage ordeal, we kind of felt we were feeling the same things and perhaps throughout this sort of wave and incidents of anti-Semitism, whether it be Bondi Beach or Manchester, we kind of felt the same. Here it's a different kind of experience because however much I will, you know, yammer on and explain to you what it feels like to be under this kind of bombardment, I think it's very hard if you're not here to

kind of understand what that means. And I think we talked a little bit about that kind of

the frequency and how frequent it is this time. There are basically two differences between what

we're going through now and what we went through in June, the first war with Iran then.

One is, again, the missile novels are limited in size, but they're more frequent.

So you will find yourself, you know, during the nighttime every kind of hour, hour and a half,

having to go either to a shelter, a public shelter, or a shelter in your building, or a safe room, or anywhere else.

And the other thing is that Chisbala has joined the fray, which didn't happen in June.

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