War, What Is It Good For?

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🗓️ 3 April 2020

⏱️ 50 minutes

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What is gained and what is lost when we wage "war" against the coronavirus? And the pandemic celebrity backlash.

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0:00.0	This virus does not have intent.
0:03.0	It can't be negotiated with.
0:05.0	There will be no truce.
0:07.0	Are we at war with COVID-19?
0:10.0	The metaphor of choice is framing the way we confront the crisis.
0:14.0	From WNYC in New York, this is on the media.
0:17.0	I'm Brooke Gladstone.
0:19.0	And I'm Bob Garfield.
0:20.0	If we are at war with this virus,
0:22.6	and upside, according to economists, is that it could shake up our social compact. We're all Keynesians
0:30.1	in a foxhole, because in an emergency situation, even people who normally don't like
0:35.5	government will intervene in order to save themselves using the power of the state.
0:40.3	Also, in this time of national unity, should celebrities just shut up?
0:46.3	Even if everybody gets it, like, yeah, people are gonna die.
0:52.3	It's just terrible, but like, inevitable. It's all coming up after this.
1:01.3	From WNYC in New York, this is on the media. I'm Bob Garfield. And I'm Brooke Gladstone, and this is
1:08.9	New York Governor Andrew Cuomo.
1:13.7	This is not going to be a short deployment.
1:17.6	This is going to be weeks and weeks and weeks.
1:25.4	This is going to be a long day, and it's going to be a hard day, and it's going to be an ugly day, and it's going to be a sad day. But even as the death toll mounts on American soil,
1:29.4	is war what we're waging, even metaphorically?
1:33.2	Today we reached a historic milestone
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