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Politics Unpacked

War! Royals! Britney!

Politics Unpacked

Anna Covell

News & Politics, Politics, News

4.41.4K Ratings

🗓️ 14 January 2020

⏱️ 38 minutes

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Summary

Matt Chorley is joined by Lucy Fisher, The Times defence editor, on how President Trump avoided World War Three; David Aaronovitch wonders why everyone is so excited about Harry and Meghan; and James Marriott, the deputy books editor, examines the cultural hinterland of Labour leadership candidates, including the one who cites Toxic by Britney Spears as an influence.

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0:54.0

One of the upsides of a return to normal-ish politics

0:58.0

is a more varied range of topics for us to discuss

1:01.0

away from Brexit, Brexit and Brexit. On this week's show James

1:04.5

Marriott, the Times Deputy Books editor, makes his podcast debut, taking a critical

1:08.8

look at the cultural hinterland of the labor leadership contenders.

1:13.0

Times columnist David Eronovich comes overall Taylor Swift

1:16.0

and says we need to calm down about the Royals.

1:19.0

But first Lucy Fisher, the Times Defence editor,

1:21.0

on the small matter of avoiding World War 3.

1:26.3

Reckless, impulsive, terrifying.

1:28.6

That was the initial verdict on Donald Trump's shock order to American generals to obliterate one of Iran's most senior

1:34.0

military commanders in a drone strike. But the US has avoided kinetic retaliation

1:38.7

from Tehran, halted an increasingly aggressive Iranian regime in its tracks, and forced NATO to agree to step up in the

1:44.9

Middle East. As the prospect of World War III has subsided, has Donald Trump proven the

1:49.6

madman theory and pulled off a foreign policy master stroke.

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