War of Independence: Partition

The Irish Passport

Society & Culture

4.8 • 652 Ratings

🗓️ 2 September 2022

⏱️ 76 minutes

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Summary

The third installment in Naomi and Tim’s series on the War of Independence discusses a landmark of 20th century Irish history: the partition of the island. Tim digs into the backstory to reveal how once again, an unhappy chapter of Irish history is linked to Winston Churchill. This episode lays out the thinking at the time and how the so-called ‘Irish question’ was shaped through parliamentary debates in Westminster, as a team of officials in London drew out the boundaries of the two new jurisdictions while Ireland was at war. We discuss how unionist movements evolved in relation to the question of Home Rule and partition, and the sense of betrayal particularly of southern unionists that led Dublin-born unionist leader Edward Carson to declare: “What a fool I was! I was only a puppet, and so was Ulster, and so was Ireland, in the political game that was to get the Conservative Party into power”. University College Dublin historian Dr Conor Mulvagh joins us again to lay out how the pro-independence forces in the south contended with the new entity that was created on the north east of the island, and the violence unleashed as whipped-up unionist crowds drove Catholics out of their homes and jobs in the north. A bonus episode is available for Patreon supporters in which Naomi and Tim debrief from this episode and discuss what stood out to them – including the striking parallels with present day politics in a reckless Conservative Party wreaking havoc towards the island of Ireland. You can hear it at https://www.patreon.com/theirishpassport You can follow us on Twitter at @PassportIrish

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0:00.0	Hello, everyone. Just a quick note to say that because of our unusual recording circumstances this month, which we'll explain in a minute, there was a bit of interference on our mic now and then during this episode. So sorry about that. We'll look out for itney. I'm Naomi O'Leary. We're friends. Can you
0:20.8	both to Naomi? Anwarfatham. This is your passport to Irish
0:24.5	culture, history and politics. Uh-huh. I'm-series on the Irish War of Independence.
0:58.1	Yes, we are doing everything we can, Naomi, because you are on location and you are still coming to us.
1:03.7	We are doing travelling podcasts once again.
1:07.8	Yeah, just to describe where I am, and in case it sounds funny, I hope it doesn't.
1:12.0	I'm actually in the cupboard of a conference room, in the basement of a hotel, where I'm on
1:18.3	holiday. This is the best audio that I could find. It was this or like traffic. So anyway,
1:24.7	that's where you find me today.
1:28.1	It's not the weirdest place we've recorded to.
1:30.4	We recorded from.
1:31.8	We can assure you that.
1:33.8	It's probably up there.
1:35.2	But yeah, I have done a bathroom before.
1:37.2	But yeah, my main concern is that if anyone comes in to use the conference room,
1:40.9	I'm going to have to come out of the cupboard.
1:43.7	And then it will seem
1:47.2	insane. Anyway, the only thing you can do, Naomi, is completely own it and be very confident and walk
1:52.5	out the door. Sorry, sorry. You've got podcasts who's in the building. That explains everything.
1:59.6	So from the cupboard and from my own location, which is way less weird, we are, yes, on
2:06.6	part three of our little mini-series on the War of Independence.
2:10.6	So if you haven't heard the first two installments on this War of Independence miniseries,
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