War in Ukraine: the cyber frontier
Business Daily
BBC
4.4 • 796 Ratings
🗓️ 3 March 2022
⏱️ 18 minutes
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Summary
How the conflict in Ukraine is playing out in cyberspace. With the conflict in Ukraine still raging following Russia’s invasion Ed Butler speaks to hackers from Ukraine including Vlad Styran of Berezha Security Group, one of the people tasked with fending off digital attacks on Ukraine. Dyma Budorin, CEO of cybersecurity firm Hacken.IO, tells Ed he left the country before the current conflict broke out, to carry out a programme of “offensive operations” against Russian targets. Chester Wisniewski of internet security firm Sophos says the Russian intelligence services occasionally work with existing groups of hackers to carry out targeted attacks. And Lennart Maschmeyer of the Center for Security Studies in Zurich explains why he thinks some people are overestimating the Russian state’s cyberwarfare capabilities.
(Photo: How the conflict in Ukraine could play out in cyberspace; Credit: Getty Images)
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| 0:00.0 | Hi there, I'm Ed Butler. Welcome to Business Daily from the BBC. Today's cyber warfare, |
| 0:06.4 | Ukrainian hackers, tell us that Russia had better watch out. In cypress space, you will see the results |
| 0:12.8 | very soon. Right now, Ukrainian music on their websites is just spinets. The big things are coming. |
| 0:20.6 | But some are saying that this latest armed conflict |
| 0:23.6 | has been missing the type of major cyber attacks |
| 0:26.8 | that many had forecast. |
| 0:28.8 | Have we actually been exaggerating the risks of cyber war? |
| 0:32.5 | Russia has invaded, and still Russia has not really used any more powerful capabilities. |
| 0:37.6 | And I would argue the most likely explanation is because these more powerful capabilities are just imaginary. |
| 0:43.0 | They don't really exist. |
| 0:44.5 | All that to come. Business Daily from the BBC. |
| 0:51.4 | Today at 1, we are live in Kiev as Russia is accused of war crimes over its invasion of Ukraine. |
| 0:59.9 | Missiles rain down on the city of Kharkiv. There are claims Russia is using cluster bombs on residential areas. |
| 1:06.7 | The relentless headlines and the bombing and the suffering. |
| 1:20.0 | As the destruction in Ukraine cities intensifies, eyes are naturally turned away from another battle that's taking place, the one online. |
| 1:27.5 | Ukraine, according to the reports, has been facing a constant barrage of small-scale cyber attacks in the last week. |
| 1:33.8 | Local cyber security operative Vlad Sturran is one of those tasked with fending them off. |
| 1:37.0 | He spoke to me from somewhere deep inside Ukraine. I see government services offline. |
| 1:41.9 | Only essential government services are protected and we are still holding up |
| 1:49.3 | where we really need to. And what are you doing? I mean, personally, are you involved in those |
| 1:55.8 | efforts to protect the Ukrainian network? Yes. We are seeing a lot of attempts to shut down our voices abroad, right? |
| 2:05.6 | So English-speaking media are attacked like crazy. |
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