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The Jack Carr Channel

War In The Congo

The Jack Carr Channel

Jack Carr

Society & Culture

4.92.8K Ratings

🗓️ 4 June 2025

⏱️ 113 minutes

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Summary

Jim Hawes, a Navy SEAL and CIA paramilitary officer, whose covert maritime missions in the 1960s helped shape the early fight against communism in Vietnam and Africa. In 1964, Jim became the first SEAL Team 2 officer permanently assigned to MACV-SOG in Vietnam, where he led maritime operations into North Vietnam - operations initially run by the CIA and unknown to most outside a tight circle of operatives. From a remote base outside Da Nang, Jim conducted coastal raids and intelligence-gathering missions behind enemy lines.  These formative missions, including involvement in what was to become known as the Gulf of Tonkin incident, laid the groundwork for the Navy’s involvement in the larger SOG effort.  Following Vietnam, Jim brought his maritime expertise to Africa, joining the CIA’s paramilitary ranks during the height of the Cold War. On Lake Tanganyika, he helped run one of the most successful clandestine operations in Agency history - intercepting weapons, disrupting communist movements, and tracking Che Guevara’s insurgency in the Congo. Jim is the author of Cold War Navy SEAL: My Story of Che Guevara, War in the Congo, and the Communist Threat in Africa. Today, six decades after BUD/S, he lives in Africa - now telling the stories that shaped a generation. FOLLOW JACK Instagram: @JackCarrUSA  X:  @JackCarrUSA Facebook:  @JackCarr  YouTube:  @JackCarrUSA SPONSORS CRY HAVOC – A Tom Reece Thriller https://www.officialjackcarr.com/books/cry-havoc/ Bravo Company Manufacturing - BCM Stock MOD3: https://bravocompanyusa.com/bcm-stock-mod-3-black/  and on Instagram @BravoCompanyUSA THE SIGs of Jack Carr: Visit https://www.sigsauer.com/ and on Instagram @sigsauerinc  Jack Carr Gear: Explore the gear here https://jackcarr.co/gear

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0:00.0

This episode of the Danger Close podcast is brought to you by Cry Havoc

0:04.0

from New York Times number one best-selling author Jack Carr.

0:07.7

Cry Havoc, a Tom Rees thriller, order now.

0:14.0

We thought we were going to kill Che Guevara on 20th and November, 1965.

0:23.6

We were there with the boats, we were poised, having a pretty good idea where they were going to try to escape from.

0:29.6

This is crazy. Right at that time, one of the T-28 pilots crashed in the water.

0:35.6

We diverted to go to try to see if there's anything we'd do for this guy.

0:40.3

And that had to be at the point that made us escape because we just can't see how it could have happened any other way.

0:49.3

Because we had a lake locked up by Jay's own admission, we had Lake Locked up and that's when you got water.

0:54.5

Well, and thank you for doing this all the way.

1:10.2

Yes, indeed.

1:11.9

I'm in Brazzaville.

1:13.7

Republic of Congo.

1:15.0

I have so many questions for you.

1:16.5

This is such an honor for me to be able to do this.

1:18.7

Hey, it's always great to talk to a young seal.

1:21.8

Well, I don't feel that young anymore, especially when I see the guys today.

1:25.9

Like, they look like just children.

1:27.5

It's crazy.

1:28.4

I feel like I'm the same, but I obviously am not.

1:31.3

Well, especially somebody who's doing so much of the brand, which you most definitely are.

1:35.5

Oh, well, thank you.

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