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Honestly with Bari Weiss

War in Israel: Michael Oren Explains How ‘Evil’ Infiltrated the Country

Honestly with Bari Weiss

The Free Press

News, Society & Culture

4.67.8K Ratings

🗓️ 7 October 2023

⏱️ 53 minutes

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Summary

On October 7, Hamas terrorists streamed across the border in pickup trucks, on foot, by motorcycle, and even on paragliders. Once inside Israel, they abducted and murdered Israelis. They shot people in cars and at bus stops, they rounded up women and children into rooms like Einsatzgruppen—yes, the comparison is appropriate—and machine-gunned them. They went house to house to find and murder civilians hiding in their closets, and they dragged the bloody, dead bodies of Israelis back into Gaza where they are now being paraded, beaten, and mutilated in front of exultant crowds. The official numbers as of this writing: 300 Israelis killed and 1,590 wounded. And dozens—maybe many more—taken hostage into Gaza. They include women, elders, and children. Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyuahu called it a “black day.” He said that “what happened today has never been seen before in Israel.” Think about 9/11 and the kind of shock and terror we felt. That is the level of devastation Israel is now experiencing. We are left with so many questions: How did this happen? Who is to blame for this catastrophic security failure? How will Israel respond? How will Israel save the hostages in Gaza? What was the extent of Iran’s involvement in this sophisticated operation? Will this change the Biden administration’s policy toward the Islamic Republic? And so many more. Some of those questions will be answered in the coming days and weeks. For today, historian and former Israeli Ambassador to the U.S. Michael Oren helps us make sense of the unfolding crisis. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

I'm Barry Weiss. This is honestly and I'm here right now with historian Michael

0:05.0

Orrin, former Israeli ambassador to the United States, former member of

0:09.2

Israel's Kaneset, to help us answer the many questions that are running through my head and

0:14.2

maybe yours right now of what many are already calling Israel's 9-11.

0:18.8

Michael Orrin, thank you for making the time.

0:20.9

Yeah, I fear it must be even worse than 9-11 because though there was a tragic, tragic loss of life

0:27.5

on 9-11, America's enemies did not invade America's soil.

0:33.0

America's enemies did not cart off what would be proportionately hundreds or even

0:36.8

thousands of American hostages.

0:39.5

And one does not want to compare tragedy and tragedy, but for the state of Israel, I think this is a greater

0:46.1

tragedy even, even than the Young Kippur War of exactly 50 years ago.

0:51.7

Some people who are watching the news or just scrolling through the

0:55.0

New York Times might not have a sense of the magnitude of what just has

0:59.1

happened over the past less than 24 hours.

1:02.6

Let me just go through some of the images,

1:05.0

and I'm going to try not to cry that I have been seeing

1:07.6

this morning and last night.

1:09.6

Terror is going door to door hunting people down. A mother, a hostage,

1:14.3

cradling two redhead babies in her arm. An old woman, probably a grandmother,

1:19.1

being forced to pose with a Hamas rifle. The dead half-naked body of a young woman on a stolen IDF vehicle

1:26.4

being dragged into Gaza by Hamas militants being mutilated.

1:30.6

Teenagers running for their lives at a music festival kind of like

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