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🗓️ 24 September 2020
⏱️ 38 minutes
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Civil wars, proxy wars, cold wars, hot wars. Economic collapse, the collapse of civil societies and governments. Hunger, torture, disease.
Many parts of the world seem to be falling apart in 2020, but even then, the Middle East is its own special case.
To talk about the state of one of the world’s most turbulent regions, Steven Cook joins us. Cook is the Eni Enrico Mattei senior fellow for Middle East and Africa studies at the Council on Foreign Relations.
He recently wrote an overview for Foreign Policy magazine that captures much of what’s going on—“The End of Hope in the Middle East”
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0:05.1 | It's up to you how much you give and there's no regular commitment. Just click the link in the show description to support now. You have Turks with troops on the ground, you obviously have Syrian mercenaries on the ground, you have obviously |
0:20.8 | have Syrian mercenaries on the ground, you have obviously Libya. you obviously |
0:24.5 | Libyans on the ground and then you have large numbers of Egyptian regular forces |
0:29.6 | across the border. |
0:30.4 | The Egyptians have a huge army. You have along with them across the border. the used from time to time. You have Russian mercenaries on the ground in Libya |
0:45.3 | operating with Heftars next to and with Heftars forces. You have Russian |
0:50.1 | aircraft on the ground in Eastern Libya. You also have mercenaries also from |
0:55.5 | Syria, also from Sudan, also from all different places. If you're in |
1:00.6 | Emirati Special Forces, which may be some Emiratis but they also may be |
1:04.3 | Columbians. You have a UN of forces in Libya facing off against each other for a variety of reasons. |
1:14.3 | One day all of the facts in about 30 years time will be published. |
1:21.1 | When the genocide... years time will be published. When genocide has been carried out in this country almost with impunity, |
1:28.0 | and when it is near to completion, |
1:31.0 | people talk about intervention. |
1:33.2 | They will be met with fire, fury, and frankly power, |
1:40.8 | the likes of which this world has never seen before. So, Hello and welcome to angry planning. I'm Jason Fields. Civil Wars, proxy wars, cold wars, hot wars, economic collapse, the collapse of civil societies and governments, hunger, torture, disease. Many parts of the world seem to be falling apart in 2020, but even then, |
2:27.0 | the Middle East is its own special case. To talk about the state of one of the world's most |
2:31.8 | turbulent regions, Stephen Cook joins us. |
2:35.4 | Cook is the Enrico Matai Senior Fellow for Middle East and Africa Studies at the Council on Foreign Relations. |
2:44.4 | He recently wrote an overview in Foreign Policy magazine that captures much of what's going on. |
2:50.8 | The article is called The End of Hope in the Middle East. |
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