War by remote control, how drones changed modern warfare
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🗓️ 14 May 2026
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James Rodgers, war historian and author of several books about drones, including Drones: What Everyone Needs to Know
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| 0:00.0 | When Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth recently spoke to the Senate Armed Services Committee, |
| 0:05.5 | he talked about the massive amounts of money the U.S. military wants to dedicate to its drone program. |
| 0:11.4 | You're looking at $54 billion in the FY27 budget dedicated to drone dominance. |
| 0:18.0 | Dron dominance isn't just a buzzword. |
| 0:20.4 | It's the Defense Department initiative to scale up its drone dominance. Dron dominance isn't just a buzzword. It's the Defense Department |
| 0:21.9 | Initiative to scale up its drone program, and the money being requested has been called, |
| 0:27.4 | quote, the largest single commitment to autonomous warfare in history. In other words, drone |
| 0:34.7 | AI. Drones have reshaped warfare and given all kinds of countries a powerful weapon. |
| 0:44.4 | President Trump attended the dignified transfer of the remains of the first Americans killed in the war. |
| 0:49.3 | On the day after the U.S. and Israel launched war against Iran, an Iranian drone made it past air defenses |
| 0:55.8 | in Kuwait, striking a U.S. command center at a civilian port. |
| 1:00.9 | Six army reservists killed by an Iranian drone strike in Kuwait. |
| 1:04.7 | They were the first U.S. casualties in the war. |
| 1:08.5 | Since then, thousands of drone strikes have been launched throughout the Middle East. |
| 1:13.4 | And it's catching the U.S. off guard. The Pentagon has begun a huge push to buy hundreds of |
| 1:19.6 | thousands of small attack drones. They were once the domain of major militaries, but they are now |
| 1:24.5 | spreading rapidly. They are cheap, efficient, and easy to dispatch. |
| 1:29.3 | Now the fastest growing sector in the Ukrainian economy. |
| 1:33.3 | Russia, which was already using AI to automate how its drones picked targets, |
| 1:38.3 | now has begun experimenting with fully autonomous systems. |
| 1:41.3 | Even in the war between Ukraine and Russia, drones have allowed a much smaller, less powerful |
| 1:47.7 | country to defend against a superior one. |
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