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🗓️ 22 August 2025

⏱️ 75 minutes

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Steve Hayes invites Jonah Goldberg, Megan McArdle, and famed New York Times columnist David French to discuss the latest in the Russia-Ukraine conflict and dive into the ingredients for a potential financial collapse. The Agenda:—Post-Alaska analysis—Tease 'em, goad 'em, kill ‘em—Security guarantees—We're in debt!—Tariff rebates—NWYT: Backer inners Show Notes:—Listen to Kevin Williamson's interview with Tim Mak on Ukraine —Read Kenneth Rogoff's Foreign Affairs article on the debt crisis The Dispatch Podcast is a production of The Dispatch, a digital media company covering politics, policy, and culture from a non-partisan, conservative perspective. To access all of The Dispatch’s offerings—including access to all of our articles, members-only newsletters, and bonus podcast episodes—click here. If you’d like to remove all ads from your podcast experience, consider becoming a premium Dispatch member by clicking here. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:29.0	Terms and conditions apply. Welcome to the Dispatch podcast. I'm Steve Hayes. On this week's roundtable, we'll discuss Russia, Ukraine, and the diplomatic scramble to end the war. We'll also discuss the inevitable American
0:55.7	debt crisis. Politicians aren't paying attention. Voters don't seem to care, but we sure do.
1:02.2	And finally, not worth your time. Have you heard of Backer Inners? And are some Parkers less
1:08.4	morally upstanding than others? I'm joined today by my dispatch co-founder Jonah Goldberg and David French of the New York Times, along with Megan McArdle from the Washington Post.
1:18.8	Let's dive right in.
1:20.0	Welcome, everybody.
1:21.5	David, I want to start with you.
1:23.1	We have seen lots of activity over the past seven days with respect to Russia and Ukraine in the United States,
1:30.9	a summit between Donald Trump and Vladimir Putin in Anchorage, Alaska on August 17th,
1:36.8	a subsequent Oval Office meeting with Voldemier Zolensky and an impressive group of European leaders just a few days later.
1:46.7	Lots of talk, lots of news coverage,
1:53.7	lots of activity. What's really changed? As near as I can tell, almost nothing. And at this point,
2:00.6	we should be grateful for that. You know, if you go back and you look at the moment when Trump is sort of standing there clapping as Putin comes towards him on the red carpet,
2:05.5	you really had no idea what was going to come next.
2:09.5	And I had a sigh of relief when the press conference, you know, was announced and they came out.
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