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What Next | Daily News and Analysis

Wanted by China

What Next | Daily News and Analysis

Slate Podcasts

Daily News, News, News Commentary

4.32.4K Ratings

🗓️ 17 August 2020

⏱️ 24 minutes

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Summary

One day last month, Samuel Chu woke up to the news that the Chinese government wanted him in jail. Chu doesn’t think he’s in danger -- he’s a U.S. citizen, living in Los Angeles. So how did he wind up on the wrong side of Chinese authorities? Simple: He’s lobbying Congress to support democracy in Hong Kong.  Guest: Samuel Chu, founder of the Hong Kong Democracy Council.  Slate Plus members get bonus segments and ad-free podcast feeds. Sign up now. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Samuel Chu is used to his phone, going rogue in the middle of the night, buzzing, beeping,

0:11.0

demanding his attention.

0:13.0

He's an advocate for democracy in Hong Kong, but he lives here in the US, that 15-hour

0:18.1

time difference.

0:19.8

It means that when news breaks back in China, he's usually fast asleep.

0:24.4

So when his phone started going off a couple weeks ago, he mostly just tried to ignore it.

0:29.9

But when I finally, like, was bothered enough to actually pick up my phone to read, I

0:36.5

realized that this is breaking news, just a different kind of breaking news, because

0:41.9

it was my name that was appearing under breaking news.

0:50.0

The breaking news, it was that the Chinese government had issued a warrant for Samuel's

0:54.9

arrest.

0:56.0

The first two people that I actually picked up was one just happened to be reported from

1:02.8

Hong Kong, actually, in Hong Kong, who called me, you know, who I actually know.

1:08.6

And she was like, well, I just want to check to see if you're okay.

1:11.3

And if you have a statement, and I was like, literally, you're the first person I've

1:15.2

spoken to you.

1:17.0

Since I found, I mean, I'm still in bed.

1:20.5

It really didn't hit me until I think, like, a few minutes after that, okay, like, this

1:26.2

is about me specifically.

1:30.8

Samuel is an American citizen, but his organization, the Hong Kong Democracy Council, it advocates

1:36.2

for Hong Kong's protesters in Washington.

1:39.6

The warrant for Samuel's arrest was issued under Hong Kong's new security law.

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