Want to live to 100? Here’s how - Devi Sridhar
Ways to Change the World with Krishnan Guru-Murthy
Channel 4 News
4.6 • 1.1K Ratings
🗓️ 13 June 2025
⏱️ 41 minutes
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Summary
Whilst life expectancy is declining in the UK and America and other high-income countries, some tech billionaires have become obsessed with life longevity - but which factors really impact how long we live and when we die?
Public health expert Devi Sridhar speaks to Krishnan Guru-Murthy on Ways to Change the World about the launch of her new book 'How not to die (Too Soon).
She explains how changing our public health policy could improve life expectancy, what the UK can learn from other countries when it comes to health, and what her own cancer diagnosis taught her about the state of the NHS’ waiting list times.
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| 0:00.0 | Yeah, so the lie being that you're individually responsible for your health, and if you are disciplined enough or have enough willpower, then you can, you know, it's your job to do it. |
| 0:09.4 | What do you think we as a country should do to make our diet more healthy? |
| 0:13.7 | First, we need to start with children. We're feeding them cheap, empty calories, largely ultra-processed. |
| 0:18.8 | It's a massive problem that we basically have in NHS, |
| 0:21.2 | but it's not really a health service. It's a disease service. You're sick and you go in and you |
| 0:24.9 | say, can you help? I mean, on vaccines, you know, America is massively pushing back. What does |
| 0:31.1 | that mean for American health? America's health's going backwards. I mean, they're having |
| 0:36.5 | measles outbreaks. Like children are dying of |
| 0:38.3 | measles, which is preventable. It's a vaccine preventable disease. We are going to see a resurgence of |
| 0:43.0 | things that were eliminated or gone. Hello, and welcome to ways to change the world, |
| 0:50.8 | the podcast where we talk to the thinkers, innovators, the radicals, |
| 0:54.7 | with the big ideas on how to change the world for the better. My guest today is the public health |
| 0:59.2 | expert, Devi Shreda, whose insights and arguments came to the fore during the COVID crisis, |
| 1:04.7 | but who has been researching public health interventions since she was a teenager in Florida, |
| 1:09.3 | with a father dying from cancer. She had her own brush |
| 1:12.2 | with the disease two years ago, just as she began writing her latest book, How Not to Die Too Soon. |
| 1:18.6 | Fortunately, she managed to do just that and joins us now. We'll get to that collision with |
| 1:23.2 | your own mortality in a moment. But first of all, if you could change the world in any way, how would |
| 1:28.2 | you change it? I think it would be to prioritize health and well-being in our everyday lives and have |
| 1:33.8 | healthy, long, aging in a vibrant way. But your book is all about really how we've been sold a lie. |
| 1:40.8 | Yeah. So the lie being that you're individually responsible for your health. And if you are |
| 1:45.4 | disciplined enough or have enough willpower, then you can, you know, it's your job to do it instead |
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